(February 10, 2016 at 5:01 pm)Minimalist Wrote:Quote: Do not try and make this about me.
But you are the one who keeps trotting out the NRA fear mantra. "THEY'RE COMING TO KILL YOU! TO ARMS. TO ARMS!!"
It's horseshit. That gun in your house is far more likely to be used against you, your family or an acquaintance.
http://www.victimsofcrime.org/docs/ncvrw...f?sfvrsn=0
Quote: 2010, where the victim-offender relationship was known, 38
percent of homicide victims were killed by an acquaintance,
22 percent were killed by a stranger, 18 percent were killed by
an intimate partner (husband, wife, boyfriend, or girlfriend), 15
percent were killed by a family member, and 5 percent were killed
by a friend
38+18+15+5= 76%
76% v 22% killed by a "stranger."
Both the majority and minority numbers are high. That says to me there still is too much gun death from both illegal and legal guns. It does not matter if you get the gun legally or illegally. You are still far more likely to get injured or die using one.
And there is a huge difference between target shooting, and crisis shooting where you are under assault and or getting fired at in return. The Oregon college shooter had armed civilians. The Navy Yard shooting had armed security guards and the Vegas shooting had two armed police and an an armed civilian murdered. And lets not forget the 9 dead at the Texas bar shootout. And just like a shark sneaks up on a seal, if someone wants to assault you, it is far more likely they will have the drop on you before you can draw your gun.
There is no way around it. We have far too many guns made and they are way too easy to get.