RE: Why More Americans Want to Own Guns
February 11, 2016 at 1:16 pm
(This post was last modified: February 11, 2016 at 1:18 pm by CapnAwesome.)
(February 11, 2016 at 12:51 am)God of Mr. Hanky Wrote:(February 10, 2016 at 11:48 pm)CapnAwesome Wrote: I reject the notion that gun control worked well in Britiain. The murder rate didn't go down after the various gun control measures there. So by what standard did it work well? Britain has a lower murder rate then the US, but then it has a similarly lower murder rate before it had gun control as well. Britain has always had a lower murder rate then the US, regardless of it's gun control laws. I haven't seen any evidence that Britain's gun laws lowered the murder rate there. If it isn't causing less murders, what's the point?
If you can point to some figures which I could reference, I'd be very happy - frankly I've had to take the word of the anti-gunners here, who make the claim that violence is down where the guns are banned, and nobody else seems to have offered a denial, even though there are numerous gun owners on this site.
Yeah, easy. The main firearms act in England was in 1968, and the second important one was in 1988. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_p...ed_Kingdom
Here is a chart with the UK homicide rate, you see a small but steady increase post 68, which was probably mostly due to a younger population and similarly 1988 homicide continues to rise. You don't see a real drop until recent years, when the homicide rate has dropped significantly in most developed countries and dramatically in the US despite the abundance of guns. What you don't see is any correlation between gun control and a drop in the murder rate. I'd love to see that evidence, but it's never presented. If banning guns really reduced murder, we'd see that evidence clear as day and every anti-gun person would be able to point to it. Instead the claim is just made that gun laws work without having to be backed up by evidence for some reason.
https://fullfact.org/news/has-murder-rat...abolished/