Religious Liberty?

[bennyboy]

I hate the quoting system on this forum, I just got tired of losing everything I had written and typing out birth control 13 times.

-You are including things again that aren't controllable by the company.  BC is prescribed for other things than sexually related.  You are making an automatic leap that the person on BC is having sex.  And since the employer is removed from the scenario and is not actually dispensing out BC it's not their concern.

If the person is not preventing pregnancy, then whatever the pill or device involved, it's not birth control by definition.

-Preventive health care is about maintaining the overall health of a patient and the qualities of that level of health and care are determined by the patient and health care provider, none of the wishes of the business are involved in any other part of the health care provided.   Not releasing an egg from an ovary is no more properly functional than releasing an egg from an ovary.  Haircut is a poor analogy as it's not part of health care.

Given the proper definition of "birth control" I gave above, then being pregnant is not part of health care, either. Pregnancy is not an illness.

-A health care package provided by an employer is part of compensation for that job performed.  A paid dollar wage is part of compensation for that job performed.    No matter what bucket of expense you put it in, compensation for the job performed is paying for that BC.  Are you in finance?  I feel like i'm at work.

When the health care package is mandated by the government, and when parts of that package go against a company-owner's religious beliefs, then you have a conflict between religion and state. I'm fine with this, as I care little for religious institutions. However, if you're going to talk the talk, you have to walk the walk-- and America, both in law and in spirit, guarantees certain rights to religious institutions and their members. If you want to steamroll over religious beliefs, then the constitution and the laws that uphold it must be amended. I'm all for it-- fuck them all. But they have not all been fucked yet, and so you have to take their beliefs, and the actions that arise from them, into more serious consideration.

A just as meaningful scenario would be that you provide food services in the form of a large coupon with many options, and I choose a place to redeem that coupon and because the food I want to eat prevents the release of an egg from an ovary that you some how can be involved in that part of a human body more than any other function of a human body.

I think this is a special pleading argument. Yes, some things used to prevent pregnancy can be used for other purposes. However, this is not what the Christian groups care about. Clearly, they feel that the prevention of pregnancy is wrong, and they do not want to contribute to their employee's ability to do so.