On integration

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Factually incorrect. The overwhelming vast majority of terror legislation was written up 4 or even 5 parliaments ago. 'PREVENT' (which is what I presume you were referring to) was a labour invention, as was the 06 Terrorism act which sought the 90 day incarceration without charge (amended to 28 days after rejection in the Commons), which was actually opposed by the Conservative party.

Doesn't change the fact that 9/11 was a perfect pretext to put Orwell to shame. Regardless of the ones actually signing the acts. Some politicians have wet spots on their pants because of the opportunity presented to them.

'The right' in the sense of the text quoted is meaningless, however. Terrorism legislation in the UK has always inspired either bi-partisan agreement or cross bench disagreement. Case in point is the 2006 Terrorism act, which is arguably the most prominent of the UK's anti-terror lesiglation, which had agree the and disagreements on both sides of the house. Ultimately it pales in comparison to legislation enacted elsewhere in the world to constrain terrorism offenses.

I can't comment on the politicians not knowing what politicians are being referred to. One thing I will say is that UK government's have been guilty of giving with one hand and taking with the other. The initial implementation of PREVENT was an unmitigated disaster for community relations, yet NL also channelled millions into community projects and inter-community forums to try and demolish barriers between them. Again, in Birmingham, millions was ploughed into inter-faith forums in various inner city wards where tensions have always been high and liable to overspill. It was a massive contradiction, not caused IMO by a nefarious intent, but more by the government's left hand not knowing what it's right hand was doing.