(February 15, 2016 at 7:58 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: Wow ok so you reject the KJV. Remarkable. Are you working on the Drich version? Perhaps the Rick James version? Can you tell me which version currently in existence is the one you use?What are you talking about. I provided you a link to the source material the KJV was translated from. from that link it clearly states that the codex (Textus Recepticus) was 500 years old. Again a codex being a singular set of specific individual manuscripts. In that link it tells us those 500 year old manuscripts of the recepticus have been superceeded by manuscripts that are older and or have a better provenance than what was available 500 years ago. That is why they compiled new codices.
For instance are you familiar with the dead sea scrolls? They were a library of original manuscripts (hand written books) of the bible found sealed in clay pots in a cave outside of kumron. Before this discovery our oldest book of Isaiah was 4 or 500 AD. Which many people/jews believed that our current manuscript had to have been modified after Christ was alive. Because of all the accurate prophesies written specifically about him in that book. In the dead sea scrolls, were several copies of Isaiah. one of which dates back several hundred years before Christ, and aside from literary differences and a few spelling errors it reads the same. That said, some of those literary difference make big changes. Like the command "thou shalt not kill" in the book of Genesis in the KJV has been revised to "thou shalt not Murder" in the NKJV The difference in the English being the first command demands that no taking of human life is permitted, while the second command says no unsanctioned taking of human life is permitted. The sanction being on no personally motivated taking of human life is allowed.
It is to these literary changes that the people who love the KJV had to update it to reflect the absolute best and most current information we have.
The translation matrix does not change, meaning the way the codices are translated does not change, what changes is the source material.
Quote:Also your rebuttal to me exposing you as a complete moron is that Hebrew is not Latin based. No shit. But it's still based on using symbols to create words so basic principles of cryptography apply. You were obliterated. You can actually save face by admitting that you were wrong. We'd respect you more. Burying your head in the sand does not impress us.My point stands sport. if you fully understood the implication of the hebrew not being Latin based you would understand that the representation of the root is indeed all that can be discussed with out an advanced degree in Hebrew. The prefix/sufixtures of those root words are or can be up for debate, and with out that advanced degree their is absolutely nothing for you to argue. because a 'qual' can mean several different things and even opposite things dependent on the 'stem or aspect' of a word, All you did is hit a wall so hard you don't know who got 'obliterated.' Why else do you think this and all laymen lexicons only represent the root?
Quote:Anyway, you still don't get it. David's son was put to death by God for David's sins.No, you still don't get it. God's law, was a command given to man. Just like YOU shall not MURDER. or YOU May not Kill Unless God permits it. In the same vain is how your supposed back breaker works. 'Man shall not kill another man for the sins of the son.' The command given does not forbid God from doing this very thing?
What do you think the term Alpha and Omega Means? It means first and last word on what is to be done. He does not need permission. If He wanted to create a rock so big He could not lift it then he can, if He didn't want to then He couldn't.. He is not bound to the rules of your simple minded games/paradoxes.
Quote: So the point is that God can do whatever he wants, so he can forgive us without dying on the cross, and he didn't want to die on the cross, so WTF was the point?Yes he could, but would you be able to comprehend the pain he endured to provide you with said forgiveness? Let lone would you then be able to fathom why He demanded the respect and obedience he does to accept this forgiveness?
Apparently not, because you cant even understand what it is the cross represents with all of it's vivid imagery... So how then could you give God the proper respect needed to simply accept his gift?
