Absurdism

[reverendjeremiah]

I'm an existential nihilist... it's going down ^_^

Thats cool. I like most of what Nihilism says. I just disagree with them on how 100% certain they are about the universe having absolutely no inherent meaning. I think you are forcing your human intent upon something that is not human and quite possibly beyond human understanding. I find that absurd.

I seek to attribute meaning to things in a way that make sense to me... but do people really seek to find an "inherent meaning" to life/universe/whatever? Scientists look for a testable and intersubjectively verifiable meaning to life/universe/whatever.... religious people seek to find a meaning that makes sense according to their faith. Who looks for an "inherent meaning"? 0.o

I also seek to attribute meaning to things in a way that makes sense to me, but there in lies the absurdity. I admit that PROBABLY any meaning I attach to things is ultimately absurd. Absurdism has no problem with "logically possible". As far as "inherent meaning", lets look up the words..shall we..

Inherent - existing in someone or something as a permanent and inseparable element, quality, or attribute
Meaning - what is intended to be, or actually is, expressed or indicated; signification; import: the three meanings of a word. The end, purpose, or significance of something.
So you can say "inherent meaning" can also mean "The inseperable element of significance", or "The quality and attribute of purpose". Absurdism claims there is PROBABLY no inherent meaning in the universe, but meaning can be found in the JOURNEY. Intent is very important in absurdism, being what is called "the human condition" which is the problem when added to a non-human cosmos. when you ask "who looks for an inherent meaning" you misunderstand the point I think. So far science has only explained mechanical, materialistic functions. They have yet to find any inherent meaning. Absurdism has no problem with science in this function, calling it "logically possible, just not HUMANLY possible". In other words, you will more than likely NOT find inherent HUMAN meaning in the cosmos...but that is not a guarentee.

I would agree that a search for objective meaning (which if it exists is horribly convoluted and quite incomprehensible when viewed in full) is a silly endeavor, I'd even go so far as to declare it absurd

I agree.

Kind of... I for one do not believe existentialism and nihilism can exist without each other. If all aubsurdism does is declare the search for inherent meaning absurd, then really one can't avoid being all three of these if they understand subjectivity. There is no objective meaning behind the universe, therefore we attribute meaning to everything, and to presume this interpretation to be the same for all is absurd.

I am no expert on absurdism, but I have put much thought into it. I can say that subjectivism will not work very well with absurdism, and objectivism might have some problems as well. Remember, wether objective of subjective, absurdism claims it is the human condition+mechanical cosmos = absurdity..and both objective and subjective can be subject to filtration by human emotions, wants, and needs. I would say objectivism would work better with absurdism than subjectivism, but they probably both do not work..
I disagree with the 100% chance of there being no inherent meaning. I say that there PROBABLY is no inherent meaning. absurdism is like strong agnosticism on steroids. Trust me, I would get along better with nihilist than I would theists.

Absolute freedom? We are all free to do anything that is possible for us to do. How can it get more absolute that that?

Yeah, the wikipedia article isnt perfect. It could have been worded better.