(February 21, 2016 at 8:23 am)robvalue Wrote: I shouldn't be surprised. Theistic arguments are made out of logical fallacies like houses are made out of bricks.
"My understanding of the theory of evolution doesn't make sense, and it's wrong."
[Correct.]
"So the theory of evolution is incorrect."
[Wrong. Strawman fallacy.]
"Therefor life was designed."
[Wrong. False dichotomy.]
"Since everything needs a cause..."
[Unsupported assumption]
"...and the universe came into existence..."
[Unsupported assumption]
"...then it had to have a cause."
[Correct conclusion, but based on unfounded assumptions]
"The cause had to be intelligent..."
[Unsupported assumption]
"...and it must be a god."
[Either a tautology of definition, or a term too vague to mean anything scientifically, which is also unsupported]
"And since some parts of my holy book are true, all of it is true."
[Fallacy of composiiton]
"Therefor that God is my god."
[Jesus pickled christ!]
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.