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Clinton or Sanders
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RE: Clinton or Sanders
I would rather have either over the a Republican. That said:

Hilary is much more the right Democrat at the right time than Sanders IMHO. Here's my reasoning:

Sanders champions ideas which may be plausibly implemented 3 or 4 elections from now but not now. I'm amazed he even talks about single-payer health plans now when the admittedly-flawed AHCA has drawn the incredible resistance it has. Its like when Bill Clinton managed to push his "Don't ask, Don't tell policy for gays in the military in 1993. The gays were disappointed but the military members were horrified to go that far. Trust me, I was a member of the US Air Force at the time. There is no way he could have gotten openly-gay members of the military legally serving at that time. He went as far as he could realistically go. That's the way Hillary is on things like higher minimum wage. Sometimes you have to take baby steps or not take steps at all. Sanders is off the rails, going after things which are totally unrealistic. He would simply waste time.

Hillary has MUCH more chops on foreign policy. Obviously, she has much more experience having served 4 years as Secretary of State. It's very important IMHO. Sanders is completely out of his league here. He doesn't look to me to be even interested. Populism is his main thing. He's a one-trick pony. He's a good advocate for the people but not well-rounded enough to be a serious candidate for President IMHO.

Hilary is more electable. I don't care what the present polls say. If Sanders is nominated, the Republicans will crucify him over the socialist thing. This isn't the 50s but it's close enough. The socialist label will cost him enough swing votes to be fatal - maybe even against Trump. Why do you think the Republicans have been so nice on Sanders? It's for the same reason our side has hardly attacked Trump: They want him to be nominated because he's the easier opponent.

Hilary is strong. Yes, she's a bitch. I wouldn't want to live with her. But that's not the issue here. Most people would be happy to belly-up to a bar with George W Bush because he's an amiable guy whether you agree with his politics or not. That is even more true with Barack Obama who is even more charismatic. But that doesn't get it done in the oval office. It's good to be the most powerful person in the world but it's brutal too. It takes a degree of ruthlessness to do the job. Hilary has it while Sanders (and Obama, I'm afraid) does not.

Hillary is a woman. This is more my personal liberal social opinion than other things but I think we need to have a woman in charge. It's great that we had a black man as President but blacks are less than 15% of the American population. Women are 50%. It's high time a woman gets the top spot. We're wasting the talents of 50% of the population because of antiquated stereotypes. Let Hilary show that women are as capable as men. Maybe then, we can double our productivity here in the US by better using ALL of our talents. It sucks and it's embarrassing and unconscionable that we're wasting 15% of our population of blacks but it's even worse that we're wasting half of our population of women. IMHO, we really need a female President.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.

Albert Einstein
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Clinton or Sanders - by Rhondazvous - February 24, 2016 at 5:26 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Minimalist - February 24, 2016 at 5:37 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Thumpalumpacus - February 24, 2016 at 6:09 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by The Valkyrie - February 24, 2016 at 6:09 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Whateverist - February 24, 2016 at 6:16 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Whateverist - February 24, 2016 at 6:15 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Chad32 - February 24, 2016 at 6:23 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Whateverist - February 24, 2016 at 6:52 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 24, 2016 at 8:18 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Whateverist - February 24, 2016 at 9:45 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Aroura - February 24, 2016 at 10:46 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Minimalist - February 24, 2016 at 8:47 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Chad32 - February 24, 2016 at 7:02 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by vorlon13 - February 24, 2016 at 7:17 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by AFTT47 - February 24, 2016 at 7:47 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Whateverist - February 24, 2016 at 9:32 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by bennyboy - February 24, 2016 at 9:57 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by AFTT47 - February 24, 2016 at 10:19 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Pat Mustard - February 27, 2016 at 4:58 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by bennyboy - February 24, 2016 at 7:56 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 24, 2016 at 8:21 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by AFTT47 - February 24, 2016 at 8:22 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Old Baby - February 24, 2016 at 8:03 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by bennyboy - February 24, 2016 at 9:56 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 24, 2016 at 10:03 pm
Clinton or Sanders - by KUSA - February 24, 2016 at 8:29 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by vorlon13 - February 24, 2016 at 8:42 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Chad32 - February 24, 2016 at 8:51 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by AFTT47 - February 24, 2016 at 9:11 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Grandizer - February 24, 2016 at 9:42 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by bennyboy - February 24, 2016 at 9:58 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Chad32 - February 24, 2016 at 9:21 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by vorlon13 - February 24, 2016 at 10:26 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Rhondazvous - February 26, 2016 at 7:02 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by c172 - February 26, 2016 at 7:08 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Tiberius - February 26, 2016 at 7:31 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Chad32 - February 26, 2016 at 7:34 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Minimalist - February 26, 2016 at 7:42 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Minimalist - February 26, 2016 at 7:44 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Chad32 - February 26, 2016 at 7:45 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Minimalist - February 26, 2016 at 7:50 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Rhondazvous - February 26, 2016 at 8:09 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Chad32 - February 26, 2016 at 8:37 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by vorlon13 - February 27, 2016 at 12:03 am
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Minimalist - February 26, 2016 at 8:31 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Grandizer - February 27, 2016 at 12:22 am
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Tiberius - February 26, 2016 at 8:47 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Tiberius - February 26, 2016 at 8:49 pm
Clinton or Sanders - by KUSA - February 26, 2016 at 9:21 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Minimalist - February 26, 2016 at 9:27 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Tiberius - February 27, 2016 at 2:06 am
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Rhondazvous - March 1, 2016 at 4:01 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by CapnAwesome - February 28, 2016 at 8:10 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by AFTT47 - February 28, 2016 at 8:39 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by CapnAwesome - February 28, 2016 at 9:19 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by AFTT47 - February 28, 2016 at 9:29 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 28, 2016 at 9:33 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by CapnAwesome - February 28, 2016 at 9:58 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Tiberius - February 28, 2016 at 9:36 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 28, 2016 at 9:40 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by AFTT47 - February 28, 2016 at 11:44 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 29, 2016 at 2:36 am
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Angrboda - February 29, 2016 at 11:21 am
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by AFTT47 - February 29, 2016 at 12:09 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Chad32 - February 29, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2016 at 1:20 pm
RE: Clinton or Sanders - by Ryantology - March 1, 2016 at 4:04 pm

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