Theist zone

[reverendjeremiah]

I believe that's not only presumptuous of you as a broad and untrue generalization where particularly it applies to me, but it's a bad case of special pleading and an appeal to emotion. Just because someone has gone through those internal arguments and discussions and came to a different conclusion doesn't automatically make your conclusion correct or mean that they haven't done through the same process. I feel that your position is in denial of indicative proof, prefering a materialistic approach which , IMO, falls woefully short of reality for me.

Presumptuous? Christianity hasnt even described what a soul is, but presumes one must exist. There was no excuse for it back in the age of ignorance, there is DEFINITELY no excuse for it now. Every purpose that was excused as ignorance towards a soul has been replaced with testable knowledge to the ego of the brain.

Fact - thoughts come from the brain.
Fact - thoughts are a sum of electro chemical processes in the brain
Fact - Reflexes are stored in the lower brain and in the spinal chord
Fact - the brain is responsible for breathing
Fact - the brain is responsible for heartbeat and many bodily functions

Yet in light of all of this testable evidence, the belief in a soul continues. No soul means no need for salvation. No need for salvation means no rational need for Jesus. What is presumptuous about that? Presumptious? Going beyond what is right and proper is ignoring evidence and insisting that a fictional soul exists really exists in real life. Tell me I am using special pleading or emotion in that argument. Who is the arogant one in this situation?

You say I am in denial of "indicative proof". Fine. Show me some "indicative proof" that a soul really does exist. Until then, no soul, no need for salvation, no eternal afterlife.

Prefering a materialist approach/ WTF does that mean? Materialism is the default order of the Cosmos. what, you dont believe in Atomic theory and that life and the cosmos is the property of those atoms and their effects when they mingle? Honestly man, dont you even know basic scientific theory?