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Ash Wednesday
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RE: Ash Wednesday
(March 19, 2009 at 10:54 am)athoughtfulman Wrote: What does a gnostic atheist use as his proof that there is no god? Can he actually find any? If not, why would a gnostic atheist be a gnostic atheist at all? Surely they understand that faith is not a form of proof.

He can't find any. Because there isn't any - you can't prove a negative.

A gnostic atheist believes God is disproved and that they KNOW there is no God. This is actually a logical fallacy though.

God is not disproved. A gnostic atheist doesn't know of any evidence that makes God disproved. But he thinks he does or simply thinks there absolutely is no God and that's a fact because the idea is "so absurd" or whatever.

However certain I am that God does not exist...I know you can't prove a negative so there is a possibility however improbable that God does exist. But that's just like with the FSM and the IPU...

A gnostic atheist is not only 100% certain...they believe there is not even a remote possibility that their certainty is wrong - or could be wrong. They don't believe there there is a possibility at all however improbable that possibility of God is. They are 100% certain there isn't one AND 100% they are not wrong. That its basically an absolute fact and truth that God doesn't exist and its impossible for them to be wrong...

An agnostic atheist you could say could be 100% certain...but they accept that their certainty could possibily wrong and God isn't disproven...its not an absolute FACT or TRUTH that God doesn't exist. He could still exist - there is still a possibility, however improbable it is that God exists...as with the FSM and the IPU and Zeus, etc.

And like I said after all...to believe that God is disproven or disprovable is a logical fallacy. You can't prove a negative - you can't prove the non-existence of something.

EvF
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Ash Wednesday - by Eilonnwy - February 25, 2009 at 12:14 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Tiberius - February 25, 2009 at 12:25 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Eilonnwy - February 25, 2009 at 12:42 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Tiberius - February 25, 2009 at 1:09 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by LukeMC - February 25, 2009 at 1:45 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Rockthatpiano06 - February 25, 2009 at 2:24 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Eilonnwy - February 25, 2009 at 3:30 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by leo-rcc - February 25, 2009 at 4:02 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Rob - February 25, 2009 at 8:30 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by chatpilot - February 25, 2009 at 8:48 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Eilonnwy - February 26, 2009 at 9:35 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by leo-rcc - February 26, 2009 at 2:40 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Kyuuketsuki - February 26, 2009 at 10:47 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by infidel666 - February 26, 2009 at 11:08 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Eilonnwy - February 26, 2009 at 1:41 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by infidel666 - March 12, 2009 at 7:57 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by leo-rcc - March 12, 2009 at 8:22 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by padraic - February 27, 2009 at 11:22 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by chatpilot - February 28, 2009 at 12:46 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by padraic - February 28, 2009 at 8:34 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by leo-rcc - March 1, 2009 at 5:52 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by chatpilot - March 6, 2009 at 4:05 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by padraic - March 6, 2009 at 6:26 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by chatpilot - March 9, 2009 at 12:01 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by padraic - March 9, 2009 at 6:54 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by chatpilot - March 10, 2009 at 11:08 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by padraic - March 10, 2009 at 8:53 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by chatpilot - March 11, 2009 at 9:53 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Edwardo Piet - March 11, 2009 at 1:18 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by padraic - March 11, 2009 at 6:55 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by chatpilot - March 12, 2009 at 10:23 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Sam - March 12, 2009 at 12:00 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by padraic - March 12, 2009 at 7:23 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by chatpilot - March 13, 2009 at 11:16 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Tiberius - March 13, 2009 at 3:43 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Edwardo Piet - March 13, 2009 at 4:44 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Tiberius - March 13, 2009 at 5:34 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Edwardo Piet - March 13, 2009 at 5:39 pm
RE: Ash Wednesday - by chatpilot - March 14, 2009 at 10:55 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by infidel666 - March 19, 2009 at 10:12 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by athoughtfulman - March 19, 2009 at 10:54 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by Edwardo Piet - March 20, 2009 at 7:24 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by infidel666 - March 20, 2009 at 1:01 am
RE: Ash Wednesday - by athoughtfulman - March 20, 2009 at 1:23 am



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