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Cognitive dissonance
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RE: Cognitive dissonance
(March 3, 2016 at 2:21 am)robvalue Wrote:
(March 2, 2016 at 9:11 pm)AJW333 Wrote: I'd like to offer an explanation for this one;

3A) God knows everything we're going do to, before we do it, because he knows everything.

3B) We are free to make genuine choices.

Let's say I had a mouse that could find its way to the centre of a maze where there was a piece of cheese. I could observe that mouse make free-will decisions to turn left or right as he goes. Now even though I know exactly which way he will turn, I am in no way interfering with his free will.

How do you know which way he will turn, if he hasn't decided yet? How do you know he won't just sit there and do nothing?
Point taken. I as a human being don't know absolutely what he will do.

(March 3, 2016 at 2:21 am)robvalue Wrote: If this information is available before it has happened, then the mouse cannot make any other choice.
I don't see how this follows. Just because a third party (ie God) knows what an individual will chose, how does that deny them the ability to make the choice?
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Cognitive dissonance - by robvalue - February 27, 2016 at 6:21 am
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 27, 2016 at 6:29 am
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by Bob Kelso - February 27, 2016 at 6:31 am
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - February 27, 2016 at 6:46 am
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by SteelCurtain - February 27, 2016 at 7:06 am
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by downbeatplumb - February 29, 2016 at 4:08 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by bennyboy - February 27, 2016 at 7:22 am
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by robvalue - February 27, 2016 at 7:31 am
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by bennyboy - February 27, 2016 at 8:18 am
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by robvalue - February 27, 2016 at 8:20 am
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by bennyboy - February 27, 2016 at 1:52 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 27, 2016 at 8:37 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by bennyboy - February 27, 2016 at 8:46 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by MTL - February 27, 2016 at 9:33 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 27, 2016 at 10:32 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by robvalue - February 27, 2016 at 1:56 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by bennyboy - February 27, 2016 at 2:02 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 27, 2016 at 8:58 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by bennyboy - February 27, 2016 at 11:41 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by robvalue - February 27, 2016 at 2:10 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by robvalue - February 27, 2016 at 3:04 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by MTL - February 27, 2016 at 7:32 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by bennyboy - February 27, 2016 at 8:44 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by Jackalope - February 27, 2016 at 3:16 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by MTL - February 27, 2016 at 4:43 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by Angrboda - February 27, 2016 at 7:18 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by robvalue - February 28, 2016 at 1:36 am
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 29, 2016 at 1:22 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 29, 2016 at 2:19 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by Angrboda - February 29, 2016 at 2:29 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 29, 2016 at 3:22 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2016 at 2:36 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by Angrboda - February 29, 2016 at 3:45 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 29, 2016 at 4:05 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by Angrboda - February 29, 2016 at 5:49 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2016 at 4:11 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 29, 2016 at 4:19 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by The Grand Nudger - February 29, 2016 at 4:24 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 29, 2016 at 4:35 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 29, 2016 at 6:00 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by bennyboy - March 2, 2016 at 12:11 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by Angrboda - February 29, 2016 at 6:43 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 29, 2016 at 7:02 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonan - by robvalue - March 2, 2016 at 4:48 am
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2016 at 10:52 am
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by robvalue - March 2, 2016 at 10:59 am
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2016 at 11:24 am
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by robvalue - March 2, 2016 at 12:38 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by AJW333 - March 2, 2016 at 9:11 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by robvalue - March 3, 2016 at 2:21 am
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by AJW333 - March 4, 2016 at 1:12 am
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by The Grand Nudger - March 2, 2016 at 9:22 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by ignoramus - March 2, 2016 at 10:46 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by Aroura - March 2, 2016 at 10:54 pm
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by SteelCurtain - March 3, 2016 at 1:18 am
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by Silver - March 4, 2016 at 1:20 am
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by J a c k - March 4, 2016 at 1:21 am
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by robvalue - March 4, 2016 at 2:03 am
RE: Cognitive dissonance - by robvalue - March 7, 2016 at 3:24 am

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