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Treaty of Tripoli?
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RE: Treaty of Tripoli?
Quote:I believe the final version of that treaty, signed by President Adams DID NOT contain the portion about America not being founded on the Christian religion and nobody is sure why.

Okay.  First, this was 1796-7 and the fastest thing moving was a sailing ship.  It took seven months for the signed document to make its way back to the US and in May, 1797 President Adams duly submitted it, with Article 11, to the senate for ratification.

Neither Adams nor Washington "signed" the treaty as, according to the custom of the day, it was negotiated by plenipotentiaries who did not have to report back on every little detail. 

Adams did write a brief note to the senate in which he asked for their advice and consent on the treaty which he noted had been signed in November, 1796.

See it below.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c...ripoli.gif

Had President Adams been pissed off about the "fuck jesus" clause he could have said so in his note to the senate.  He did not.

What President Adams did say, long after leaving office was:

Quote:"As I understand the Christian religion, it was, and is, a revelation. But how has it happened that millions of fables, tales, legends, have been blended with both Jewish and Christian revelation that have made them the most bloody religion that ever existed?" --- John Adams, letter to F.A. Van der Kamp, Dec. 27, 1816


The senate ratified the treaty on June 7, 1797 by the 23 ( of a total of 32) senators who were present for the vote.
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Treaty of Tripoli? - by Jehanne - March 5, 2016 at 3:19 pm
RE: Treaty of Tripoli? - by Chad32 - March 5, 2016 at 3:44 pm
RE: Treaty of Tripoli? - by IATIA - March 5, 2016 at 4:49 pm
RE: Treaty of Tripoli? - by vorlon13 - March 5, 2016 at 3:46 pm
RE: Treaty of Tripoli? - by Chad32 - March 5, 2016 at 3:48 pm
RE: Treaty of Tripoli? - by Jackalope - March 5, 2016 at 4:08 pm
RE: Treaty of Tripoli? - by Minimalist - March 5, 2016 at 4:50 pm
RE: Treaty of Tripoli? - by Chad32 - March 5, 2016 at 4:56 pm
RE: Treaty of Tripoli? - by Gawdzilla - March 5, 2016 at 6:25 pm
RE: Treaty of Tripoli? - by Chad32 - March 5, 2016 at 6:28 pm
RE: Treaty of Tripoli? - by AFTT47 - March 5, 2016 at 6:46 pm
RE: Treaty of Tripoli? - by Minimalist - March 5, 2016 at 7:41 pm

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