Trump versus Clinton?

[The Grand Nudger]

It's also not what Marx and Engels had in mind. As usual, people lean on everyone's equal with equal pay and equal rights or obligations. That's what has been hammered into their heads for decades. But all they asked for was workers actually profiting from what they produce. Getting their fair share of the means of production. They also said that everyone should persue a career of their liking and do what they are best suited for. Total equality was never the goal.

Yeah, people have strange ideas about what was meant, or what was achieved, or even what was aimed for in that context.  All part of being used as boogeymen for a couple of generations, I guess.  Murica!

That goes into another aspect of the debate. Should compensation be reliant on the difficulty and knowledge requirements of a job? The physical or mental demands of the job? The job's role in allowing a stable, functional and advanced society to function?

I think we can all agree that a doctor is a more vital job than a burger flipper, overall, and deserves very good compensation, but should that mean the burger flipper doesn't deserve a living wage? That's not an argument that makes sense to me.

Me neither, and sometimes I think we've ignored some of those metrics you mentioned above (they should all be factored in).  I don't think that theres a job on this earth that doesn;t deserve a living wage.  If someone -truly- can't make a living wage doing what they do (or by being paid by their boss....and on this end I have strong suspicions that it;s an excuse to exploit)....then, flat out, we don't need to make that shit.  It's a net loss, it's worthless. It wastes our limited resources, it wastes our limited time, and it cheapens our limited lives.

Burger flippers, for example...are the profitable commodity in most fast food joints...not the burgers. That's some shady shit.