(March 13, 2016 at 1:14 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(March 12, 2016 at 8:24 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: In the same way I know they can't come from nothing without cause, that is being non-existence and then existing with no cause, I know they are in need of cause to exist.
So you know your first assertion you haven't bothered to demonstrate is correct, because of a second assertion you've made that you haven't bothered to demonstrate. Okay then.
I'm saying in the same way I know non-existence cannot be such that existence appears from it with no cause, the same is true of knowing why things can't constantly exist on their own with no cause. It's one and the same knowledge in fact. It's relying on the principle of causation with respect to existence.
You can say it's not clear that existence can't come from non-existence with no cause. You can deny every little bit of knowledge you been given from God for all I care.
It's evidence. So let's add that to the properly basic things to deny, shall we? Anything to avoid accepting the most high, shall we?