(March 14, 2016 at 7:22 pm)MrNoMorePropaganda Wrote: [quote='Drich' pid='1225589' dateline='1457977257']
Regan used the Taliban to fight a proxy war against the USSR Like they used the Vietnamese to fight a proxy war against us.
Quote:What business did Regan have in Afghanistan?See the bold bit above.
Quote: Why squander money in such a far away country? Some would say a blinding hatred of Communism.If you did not grow up in the 60, 70s, 80s it is hard to understand the looming fear the cold war had on people.
This was a move to (through attrition) to cause the soviets to spend tremendous amounts of time, money, resources and man power (like they made us spend in Vietnam by supporting the North Vietnamese) fighting a revolutionary war, rather than fighting us directly. we always feared/were told the next war would/could only be nuclear. However if we got the Russians to fight in a place where they couldn't use their arsenal and did not fear a nuclear attack from their enemys then they would be forced to fight a conventional war. Which the Russians while prepared to do, they could not sustain a prolonged attacked because their weapons and gear were all about fighting a nuclear war. So this conventional war was very very costly because they were not truly ready to fight it. Again this action (along with several others) lead to the ultimate demise of the USSR.
Quote:At the time, the Taliban were armed and financed by Saudi and Pakistan also, two terrible countries. Majority of the Afghans don't like the Taliban.which were also armed by us...
Quote:The Taliban took away their televisions and their Buzkashi and before the Taliban women could get an education! The Communists overthrew the unpopular Shah and they did so much to improve the country. Regan comes along and finances some Jihadis who wanted to ruin Afghanistan. Of course they wanted to impose Sharia and marginalize people; they were financed by Saudi!What regan did was take the country and attempt to give it back to it's people rather than be oppressed by Russian rule. Regan would have no way of knowing that
people (after kicking out the russians) would fail to properly organize and elect to appoint one tryant after another.
Good bad or indifferent, their government reflects the will of the people now not the will of another country.
(March 14, 2016 at 1:40 pm)Drich Wrote: Likke with the Vietnamese Regan turned a 'policing action' for the russians into a war of attrition that they lost. Ultimately contributing to the economic crash and restructuring of Russia. Regan was indeed correct when He compared The Taliban to the Colonial Army.
Quote:No, Regan was be willfully ignorant. You seem to be suggesting that supporting "Militant Islam" is absolutely fine if the end justifies the means.In 1979/1980 their wasn't a militant islam. Their was the Afghani people and a political movement of the Taliban who want to exile the russian goverment (much like the Republic of South Vietnam and the republic of South Korea) We did in Afghanistan in the 80's what we did for those Asian nations.
Quote:The "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" mentality is what gave the Taliban and AL-Qaeda power. The United States loves war. That's why people hate the United States.The united States loves freedom and simply tried to give 'freedom' to apparently inherently evil people.
Quote:The Russians/Soviets weren't colonizing Afghanistan. They were helping out an ally. And you're saying Regan didn't know who he was dealing with? Regan loved the al-Saudi, the Fascists that rule Saudi, just as much as George W. Bush did. I would like to dispel the notion that President Regan didn't know what he was doing: He knew exactly what he was doing.Your right he did know what he was doing, he was giving the country back to it's people. Again their wasn't 'radical Islam' in 1980. It was simply Islam.
Apparently it's fine if Regan supports "Radical Islam"; that's all I understood from your post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQI02pVH1jc