(March 18, 2016 at 3:35 pm)Drich Wrote:(March 18, 2016 at 2:23 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:
Says who???
Science?
You do understand Religion and Science are not even the same category, and you are comparing apples and oranges right?? Use to be, a long time ago Religion/God was debated and approached as a philosophy. Most of those arguments ended poorly for the philosopher, because God could indeed be demonstrated to enough of a degree to trump empty philosophy. So then along comes 19th centruy the self righteous philospher with an interest in 'science.' Now straddling two different disciplines, the Anti Theist is no longer bound by the rules of philosphy or just science alone, they can take the best of both, and when one fails you seek to tap the other.
For example the foundational principle of Science (the scientific method) Demands completely mastery and control over a given principle or phenomena for it to be considered known/vetted/verifiable. Which would mean we (finite) would have to have complete control/mastery over God (infinite) inorder to proof God to the degree Science requires. Which (philosophically speaking) means God is not, Can no longer be God/Alpha and Omega. So even if we could win at that Game we still loose.
So no, not going to play. Pick a discipline and follow it through. You want to talk philosophy let talk theological philosophy, Or Science but not both when ever it suits you. when you loose sack up and concede. Don't pull this weak minded BS and try and sift the goal posts on me.
Theological Philosophy is fantasies about your imaginary friend that no one will ever be able to prove. I have never been able to understand how theology is even a field - billions of pages of musings about something that doesn't exist. Fine. Science only. Buh-bye until then.
"The family that prays together...is brainwashing their children."- Albert Einstein