(March 28, 2016 at 11:50 am)ChadWooters Wrote:(March 28, 2016 at 11:00 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: ...I came up with that argument on my own. I didn't know Euthypro's Dilemma existed as such until reading this thread.If you say so.
(March 28, 2016 at 11:00 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: Your rejection...is that God uses himself as the standard for goodness because he is the very essence of goodness (or something like that).Something like that.
(March 28, 2016 at 11:00 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: Aside from being completely circular...Only if you ignore the context and history.
(March 28, 2016 at 11:00 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: If God decided to use his own qualities as the standard for good, then it's still arbitrary and based on nothing more than divine command.Your objection is based on the irrational idea that God could act contrary to His nature. The only thing arbitrary is the personal choice of whether or not to accept God's Nature as the object of moral reasoning. Virtue ethics argues that it is both wise and praiseworthy to do so.
I don't actually believe that God can act at all, since to act one must first exist, but even if he could, why is it irrational to expect that an omnipotent being could act contrary to its nature? If he can't act against his nature, what stops him? If it's a set of rules, then he's not the highest moral authority, and if it's his own limitations, then he's not all-powerful, which is a whole other problem to itself.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
