Blaming the victim.

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My boyfriend's daughter is 10. She doesn't even understand the vaguest notion of the concept of "whoring". What girls that age do understand is that dressing a certain way gets a certain amount of attention - something girls hitting puberty all hunger for.

Hungering for attention is a very dangerous prospect when one is not prepared to deal with that attention, more so when has the attention and doesn't know what to do with it. Also, some people discover the internet earlier than others, some have mothers/sister/aunts putting their influence upon them, and some people drank way too much milk past infanthood. If all girls hitting puberty understand that how they dress affects the attention they receive: is it really such a stretch that they know why it does?

If you want to argue perspective, I'd love to know what this "dressing older" meant, since I've been aghast at some of the shit they sell to 14 year olds and younger. In a close community, probably highly religious too since it's in TX, they could have considered any number of styles to be "too old" for her.

Do we even have a picture of her? What is sold to people 14 and younger that you do't like being sold to them?

My point still stands, Dotard - no way does an 11 year old, even if she does understand the concept of prostitution, in any fucking way resemble someone old enough to legally have sex. Even if she said "sure I'll gang bang a bunch of guys" she still is too young. If the middle schoolers are convicted, maybe they would have been lenient on that count and said "well the youth of today are depraved" or whatever else, but a 19 year old picking her up? Give me a break.

I wonder what would happen if I disagreed with your assertion that she was too young (which i do). Too young for people older than their middle teens? Yes. Too old to be having sex? No.

The youth of today are not especially depraved... they see an offer for sex and they take it up because it's not common, and they are not likely to have sex at that time otherwise.

Don't pull that bullshit on me about "girls appear older" these days, either. Even if she did look older, she couldn't have appeared more than 16.

And even if she looked 16, she could easily have been 20 or older still. Presenting a fake ID would not have been so difficult.

Rape victims often don't come forward out of fear or shame. That same video could also hold proof that she was coerced.

I do not believe this on the principle of "How do you know it occurred if nobody reported it and you didn't stumble across it on your own?". I really don't get that assertion at all. Nor do I believe so many people are embarrassed or scared by/of those who rape them. Some? Sure. Often/many/most? Far from it.

And Sae, my point about clothing was that I thought it was irrelevant in the face of the way the situation apparently escalated that someone accused her of "dressing beyond her age" and therefore I made a ridiculous example. There are men accused of gang raping her with video and pictorial evidence. In the case of rape, while I might well condemn a grown woman for wearing a skanky outfit in a bad part of town, the crime and blame still rests on the asshole who doesn't take "no" for an answer.

Blame for an event's occurrence is shared fairly between all of the causes of the event. I honestly wonder why there would be video and pictorial evidence... clearly they did not take enough precautions when performing an activity that is illegal. Clothing is a relevant factor in this case, though it may have been an indirect cause.