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The backbreaker
RE: The backbreaker
Wow... you really have a listening problem, don't you? I told you to stop trying to project motivations onto me in order to satisfy your bizarre idea (no doubt imparted to you by leaders/mentors within your religious social circles) that atheists think the way we do because we're emotionally traumatized.

Secondly, my mother has a PhD, is a professor at LSU, and is one of the most well-read persons I know, except on subjects of science and any historical facts that might potentially contradict the Biblical Literalism that is the hallmark of her fundamentalist faith. The reason I left my faith actually was because of her grudge against the Catholic church for her perceived crimes against True Christianity™, which ironically sound just like yours. When I was still a Christian, I was trained in apologetics...with a particular bent toward understanding the claims of Catholics, and how to refute them. I became an atheist after my realization about the church's mistakes about science led me to apply the same scrutiny to the Protestants, and then to other religions. I continued studying throughout the decade or so that followed my departure from that home, and to some degree continue to do so, though I care a lot less about your cult now than I did when being a member of it (and finding my freedom from it) was still fresh.

I don't do what I do because I'm angry, or resentful. I do it to protect HER feelings, and to not be a jerk of a son. After realizing that I couldn't talk to her about the problems of her position without her getting emotionally invested and hurt/offended, I stopped talking with her about it... it's along the lines of trying to tell a football fan that his team/club sucks by pointing at statistics. They just don't want to hear it, and it's not worth the argument if you care about the person.

Finally, I'm not the one with the emotional blind spot. You see your god through rose-colored glasses, after years of conditioning (the repetitive nature of Catholic masses should be a red flag to you that it's a brainwashing technique), but if you were evaluating the actions of Lord Shiva in the Bahagavad Gita, say, it would be clear as day to you. The difference between us is that I see no difference between Adonai (Lord) Yahweh and Lord Shiva.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost

I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.

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The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - February 9, 2016 at 6:47 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by ignoramus - February 9, 2016 at 7:36 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Excited Penguin - February 11, 2016 at 7:03 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by brewer - February 9, 2016 at 7:40 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by drfuzzy - February 9, 2016 at 7:58 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - February 10, 2016 at 1:07 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - February 10, 2016 at 7:26 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Minimalist - February 10, 2016 at 1:28 am
RE: The backbreaker - by robvalue - February 10, 2016 at 1:35 am
RE: The backbreaker - by ignoramus - February 10, 2016 at 1:47 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - February 10, 2016 at 10:08 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Ravenshire - February 11, 2016 at 9:02 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 12, 2016 at 4:50 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Mister Agenda - February 12, 2016 at 11:43 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - February 12, 2016 at 12:51 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Mister Agenda - February 16, 2016 at 12:18 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - February 17, 2016 at 7:09 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - February 17, 2016 at 9:56 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - February 19, 2016 at 4:46 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - February 19, 2016 at 9:35 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - February 20, 2016 at 1:29 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - February 20, 2016 at 3:10 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - February 20, 2016 at 3:52 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - February 20, 2016 at 6:23 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - February 22, 2016 at 6:49 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - February 23, 2016 at 1:20 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - February 23, 2016 at 4:56 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - February 23, 2016 at 7:14 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - February 24, 2016 at 7:10 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - February 25, 2016 at 1:08 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Thumpalumpacus - February 25, 2016 at 1:46 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - February 26, 2016 at 12:12 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - February 26, 2016 at 1:45 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - February 27, 2016 at 3:14 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - February 27, 2016 at 4:40 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - February 29, 2016 at 1:43 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - February 29, 2016 at 5:04 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - March 1, 2016 at 3:57 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - March 1, 2016 at 7:45 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - March 1, 2016 at 10:31 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - March 4, 2016 at 9:40 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - March 4, 2016 at 9:35 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - March 4, 2016 at 11:30 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - March 7, 2016 at 1:18 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - March 7, 2016 at 4:35 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - March 8, 2016 at 3:26 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Cyberman - March 8, 2016 at 6:05 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by drfuzzy - March 9, 2016 at 3:13 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Angrboda - February 27, 2016 at 10:43 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - February 28, 2016 at 10:59 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by dyresand - February 28, 2016 at 11:37 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Minimalist - March 4, 2016 at 9:42 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Mister Agenda - February 22, 2016 at 6:32 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - February 22, 2016 at 6:51 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 11, 2016 at 4:34 am
RE: The backbreaker - by drfuzzy - February 11, 2016 at 3:32 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - February 11, 2016 at 6:56 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by drfuzzy - February 11, 2016 at 7:40 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - February 11, 2016 at 7:44 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by drfuzzy - February 11, 2016 at 8:30 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by robvalue - February 12, 2016 at 4:44 am
RE: The backbreaker - by ignoramus - February 12, 2016 at 4:57 am
RE: The backbreaker - by robvalue - February 12, 2016 at 5:01 am
RE: The backbreaker - by ignoramus - February 12, 2016 at 5:42 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Drich - February 12, 2016 at 10:24 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - February 12, 2016 at 1:32 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Drich - February 15, 2016 at 1:43 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - February 15, 2016 at 7:58 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Drich - February 17, 2016 at 1:48 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - February 17, 2016 at 4:22 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by robvalue - February 12, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Drich - February 12, 2016 at 1:18 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by robvalue - February 12, 2016 at 3:10 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by downbeatplumb - February 12, 2016 at 4:16 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - February 16, 2016 at 2:37 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Ravenshire - February 16, 2016 at 4:37 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by FebruaryOfReason - February 17, 2016 at 5:01 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Thumpalumpacus - February 20, 2016 at 6:50 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by abaris - February 22, 2016 at 7:23 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by robvalue - February 23, 2016 at 2:56 am
RE: The backbreaker - by ignoramus - February 23, 2016 at 5:51 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - February 23, 2016 at 6:20 am
RE: The backbreaker - by ignoramus - February 23, 2016 at 7:00 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Thumpalumpacus - February 25, 2016 at 1:44 am
RE: The backbreaker - by SofaKingHigh - February 23, 2016 at 6:02 am
RE: The backbreaker - by robvalue - February 23, 2016 at 7:05 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 23, 2016 at 5:45 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by robvalue - February 27, 2016 at 3:21 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - March 1, 2016 at 6:59 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 2, 2016 at 12:33 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - March 3, 2016 at 1:50 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 4, 2016 at 8:20 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Cyberman - March 6, 2016 at 3:31 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by abaris - March 4, 2016 at 9:45 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Catholic_Lady - March 6, 2016 at 11:18 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 6, 2016 at 2:47 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - March 6, 2016 at 2:48 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 6, 2016 at 2:54 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by TheRocketSurgeon - March 6, 2016 at 3:23 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Catholic_Lady - March 6, 2016 at 3:29 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - March 28, 2016 at 12:20 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - March 28, 2016 at 3:04 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by TheRocketSurgeon - March 28, 2016 at 3:59 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - March 28, 2016 at 4:45 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by TheRocketSurgeon - March 28, 2016 at 5:05 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - March 28, 2016 at 5:30 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by TheRocketSurgeon - March 28, 2016 at 6:45 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - March 29, 2016 at 3:36 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - March 28, 2016 at 6:06 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - March 28, 2016 at 6:13 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - March 28, 2016 at 6:39 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - March 29, 2016 at 3:11 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - March 29, 2016 at 8:58 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - March 30, 2016 at 12:48 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - March 30, 2016 at 3:18 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - March 30, 2016 at 3:53 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - March 30, 2016 at 5:21 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - March 30, 2016 at 6:14 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - March 30, 2016 at 9:56 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - March 31, 2016 at 7:13 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - March 31, 2016 at 10:41 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - April 1, 2016 at 2:04 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by TheRocketSurgeon - April 2, 2016 at 2:21 am
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - April 2, 2016 at 6:02 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Hmmm? - April 2, 2016 at 9:03 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - April 2, 2016 at 12:17 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - April 2, 2016 at 12:27 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by TheRocketSurgeon - April 2, 2016 at 12:40 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - April 2, 2016 at 1:31 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by TheRocketSurgeon - April 2, 2016 at 6:02 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - April 2, 2016 at 7:01 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - March 30, 2016 at 2:33 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Minimalist - March 29, 2016 at 3:35 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Pat Mustard - March 30, 2016 at 3:29 am
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - March 30, 2016 at 1:29 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Angrboda - March 30, 2016 at 2:13 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - March 30, 2016 at 2:40 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Pat Mustard - March 30, 2016 at 3:13 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - March 30, 2016 at 3:22 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Pat Mustard - March 30, 2016 at 3:32 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - March 30, 2016 at 3:56 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - March 30, 2016 at 2:43 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 30, 2016 at 3:43 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - March 6, 2016 at 4:58 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by The Grand Nudger - March 6, 2016 at 2:41 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Godschild - March 7, 2016 at 1:29 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - March 6, 2016 at 2:56 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 6, 2016 at 6:14 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by The Grand Nudger - March 6, 2016 at 3:25 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - March 6, 2016 at 3:27 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by The Grand Nudger - March 6, 2016 at 3:30 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by TheRocketSurgeon - March 6, 2016 at 3:33 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by John V - March 9, 2016 at 11:42 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - March 9, 2016 at 1:25 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by The Grand Nudger - March 9, 2016 at 12:29 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - March 28, 2016 at 5:34 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by TheRocketSurgeon - March 30, 2016 at 1:19 am
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - March 30, 2016 at 1:01 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by scoobysnack - March 30, 2016 at 6:26 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by athrock - March 30, 2016 at 6:37 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Cecelia - March 30, 2016 at 7:04 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Cyberman - April 1, 2016 at 3:48 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - April 1, 2016 at 4:38 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - April 3, 2016 at 12:10 am
RE: The backbreaker - by Crossless1 - April 3, 2016 at 1:02 pm
RE: The backbreaker - by Nihilist Virus - April 3, 2016 at 1:43 pm



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