God and Distaster

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The christian logic to this disaster is to send money to those who will use it to help Japan, to send teams or workers to help those in need and send tons and tons of supplies with these teams for the Japanes and all this comes with no strings attached.

Don't Christian aid groups often evangelize and proselytize to the people they are helping? You know, making sure the victims know that God sent them and that Jesus is the way to true salvation? Somehow I think this diminishes the authenticity of their altruistic intentions, by using foreign aid as a vehicle to sell the product of Christianity.

Their first priority is helping those in need, christians understand that people who are suffering are not looking to be preached to, so it makes no sense to preach to deaf ears. Christ calls christians to help those in physical need, He taught that our actions of kindness will always speak louder than words. You should quit basing your opinion of all christians on the stories of those christians that set bad examples about christianity.

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The christian logic to this disaster is to send money to those who will use it to help Japan, to send teams or workers to help those in need and send tons and tons of supplies with these teams for the Japanes and all this comes with no strings attached. Yes many nonreligious people will do the same and these people will work side by side in their efforts to help and they will appreciate each other.

What is stated is not christian, nor is it logic. It is milk of human kindness that has flowed before anyone has ever heard of yehweh or the guttersnipe from Judea. Christian logic is to steal particular credit for that which is part of our collective evolutionary behavior heritage and squander it on furthering the disgracefully atavistic worship of that little overhyped guttersnipe from Judea.

I suppose that your reply is a representation of the milk of human kindness.

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the reality of faith.

Now if that isn't self-contradictory I don't know what is.

No I can not prove God to you just as you can not disprove God, we are at an impass on this and should let it go.

Well we as non-believers are not under any obligation to disprove your sky-wizard. You on the other hand, if you wish to convince anyone of the validity of your claims, are obligated to prove what you say.

I did not join this forum to convince anyone of God's existance, I'm stating what I see as the truth of God.

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G-C if we all stipulate to your being delusional will you stop trying to convince us of it?

Min I'm not trying to convince you of anything, I'm only defending what I believe.

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I'm not whining because there is nothing to whine about. I'm not brainwashed nor am I a fool. What I am is a reasonable person who makes his own choices by understanding the many truths about any particular situation.

Truths? Now you're asserting knowledge again. You can show that any of the shit you harp on about is true.

No I can not prove God to you just as you can not disprove God, we are at an impass on this and should let it go.

[quote="tV"]Burden of proof is on you.

Once again I'm not trying to prove God to you, frankly I'm tired of hearing this cop-out you atheist like to lean on, this is a familar tactic for those who have no answer.

I did not join this forum to prove God to you or anyone else, I do not evangelize to those who do not want to listen, why waste my time on the spritual deaf or should I say dead.

There is no spirit, we're all equally 'dead' there.

In your opinion and that's all it is an opinion.

I can justify my beliefs, they are my own and they are of personal experience, you don't like them and you may not dislike them, either way it does not matter to me what you think about my beliefs because I have them and live them for my own reasons and that does not include pleasing you.

So you think personal experience of the ethereal is justification? Then you should believe in Allah, Zeus, Buddah, Ghosts, Aliens etc - These are all things people have experienced in the exact same way as you. What makes your experiences more legitimate? Absolutely nothing. Can you verify your experiences where they can't? Absolutely not. So why do you believe your own 'experiences'? Because you're biased as fuck.

No they are not the same, my experience is with the one true God and experience has to do with what I know as the truth, because you disagree with me does not make your point valid. I'm not biased, others can believe what they desire (just as you do), this is a God given right through freewill.