The backbreaker

[Nihilist Virus]

This is an extremely disgusting thing to say and I expect you to apologize to the group of people you offended.

By that I mean that the standard of decency that I hold normal people would compel you to apologize, but I have no illusions that you will do so because you are so arrogant and you do not believe you can ever be wrong.

Because you see, I am very much into women and yet I have no desire to violate an 8 year old girl.  Yet you imply that it is the homosexual priests that are raping these boys, as if homosexuality and pedophilia are linked.  The reality is that they are just as linked as heterosexuality is linked to "heterosexual" pedophilia.  You are a bigot.  You seem to be unaware that many young girls were molested by priests also, and even if that wasn't the case, there is no reasonable connection between the sexual appreciation of a masculine, mature male body and the sexual appreciation of a pre-pubescent little boy.  You are sick.

No, I'm simply more knowledgeable about the facts than you are. Look into the matter for yourself, and you will learn that the overwhelming majority of the incidents involved post-pubescent males and not pre-pubescent children. Therefore, this was not true pedophilia, it was homosexuality.

Which is not what liberals want to hear, is it?

Lastly you say coaches and teachers engage in this more often than priests?   SOURCE????

You have Google. Do your own research.

Because the popes were apparently appointed by God himself and they were all aware of the abominable worldwide coverup.  In fact it is statistically unfeasible to suggest that there has never been a pope that was a child rapist as a priest.

They were all aware? You have proof? SOURCE?????

Which popes? When? What did they know?

And you probably don't want to hear this, but the Church has been implementing many safeguards to ensure that these things don't continue.

An utter lie.  Jesus prayed that God would take the cup of suffering from him.  Jesus begged and said if there was any other way that he would prefer that.  Since there was no other way, it follows that God is subject to the law.  Yet as you saw with the story of how he contradicted his own Torah to torture and killed David's son for his own amusement, we also conclude that God is above the law.

Well, since you are not a Christian, I can't expect you to know the nuances of Scripture, so let's walk through this. You may recall that Jesus was fully God and fully man. In His humanity, he was as fearful of dying as you and I would be. So, His prayer to have the cup pass him by is completely understandable. But what Jesus actually said was:

Matthew 26
39 Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.”

As you can see, Jesus aquiesced to the will of His Father. Then when soldiers came from the Sanhedrin to arrest Jesus, some of His followers moved to defend Him. Here is that account:

Matthew 26
Then the men stepped forward, seized Jesus and arrested him. 51 With that, one of Jesus’ companions reached for his sword, drew it out and struck the servant of the high priest, cutting off his ear.

52 “Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword. 53 Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels? 54 But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen in this way?”

If you believe in something that not only lacks empirical evidence but also is not even internally consistent, then you are utterly irrational.

Christianity does not lack empirical evidence nor is it internally inconsistent. Feel free to attempt an argument opposing this, if you wish.  

Well... yes and no.

Yes he did so willingly but only because there was no other way.

Just "yes", no "no".

John 10:17-18
17 The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. 18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.”

John 10
17 The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life—only to take it up again. 18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father.

You have shown that you are a bigot and that you give half-assed answers which do not stand up to even casual scrutiny.  I expected a whole lot more from a guy taking it to atheists at their own forums.  I'll be sure to amend my expectations appropriately.  If you can put together one damn sentence that makes a lick of sense, I'll consider it to be progress.

I look forward to seeing how well you can respond to my "half-assed answers". 

Firstly I missed the part where you address this thread. You ignored it when I repeated it here:

Is God above the law?

If yes, then why send his son to die? You address the perspective of Jesus but leave God's half out. So yet another half assed answer. Tell me WHY God had this happen when it was completely unnecessary. If you CANNOT, if all you can say is that I have to ask God,then your beliefs cannot be drafted in any kind of sensible manner. I.e. your beliefs are irrational.

If God is not above the law, why did he break his own law by torturing and killing David's son as punishment for David?


And once again, if you want to associate pedophilia with homosexuality then I have to ask: are you attracted to 8 year olds of the opposite sex? What percentage of the heterosexual population is? Are you saying that homosexuals have a higher tendency to be pedophiles?


What is my source for the popes being in on the conspiracy? Well, the head of the Catholic Church in Ireland, a cardinal who presumably is ranked below only the pope and no one else, made rape victims sign a vow of silence. I.e. a coverup. Do you believe the pope was unaware of this? If so, why didn't the pope fire his ass when this came out?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion...e-vow.html

A U.S. Department of Education report issued in 2004 examined a number of American studies into the prevalence of sexual misconduct by school staff. They found that between 3.5% and 50.3% of students are targets of educator sexual misconduct sometime during their school career. [color=#3366ff]They found that teachers, coaches, substitute teachers were the most common offenders.

Wow, between 3.5% and 50.3% are you kidding me? That is your victory?

Couldn't I just as easily say that between 3.5% and 50.3% of priests are rapists and still be correct? Or how about between 3.5% and 100% of priests are rapists. That is correct, lol. Now look I've magically put priests back in front without even doing anything.