(April 2, 2016 at 2:49 am)scoobysnack Wrote:(April 2, 2016 at 2:33 am)dyresand Wrote: There he desires what he will's there you go we have no free will of our own if god exists.
And love is what god desires.. i just said we have no free will of our own you are predetermined to love
god did you catch that... if god exists you are forced to love god you don't have the free will not to love god.
Clearly you have the free will not to love God, just as you have the free will to commit suicide. Both are bad mistakes, but if you desire it you can do it. Both will also allow others to learn from your mistakes and grow. As unfortunate as mistakes in judgement can be and as as much as people blame God for bad things that happen, they are a result of decisions being made by humans. Really in the end they are your decisions. God allows it to happen, but also intervenes in some instances when needed or asked for.
Okay... i'll state this clearly read from the title if a god existed. I don't believe on exists just stated if one existed.
If a god existed he planned your whole whole entire life out he even makes people not believe in him. If a god existed
we have true free will you cannot have a god who is all knowing and have free will it's incompatible you would need a god
who is simply not all knowing. Sine people with or without free will are going to kill themselves people who do not have
free will simply are doing it only because god has programmed said person to kill themselves. Need i say more because
i don't think you are getting it ill state it as so.
1. All knowing god - free will does not exist only a illusion of free will.
2. Not all knowing god - free will exists can mess with free will.
those are your only 2 choices. And i was only strictly talking about the first one.
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