(April 3, 2016 at 12:24 am)dyresand Wrote:(April 2, 2016 at 5:16 pm)athrock Wrote: God made Adam and Even sinless, and they did not have to fall from grace. They chose to do so despite the warning that they had been given about the consequences of disobeying God.
God was surprised by their decision; He knew what they would choose before He made the universe. However, He also knew that He would send His own Son to remedy the situation.
However, God's foreknowledge does not prevent us from choosing freely; He simply knows the outcome ahead of time.
Adam and Eve had no free will their fall from grace would have happen regardless.
Humans were given free will from the beginning. There are forces at work in the duality of love and hate, light and dark. It was lucifer who tempted them. Luciferian claims for example that Lucifer gave humans self awareness and the ability to make choices to go against God, or go against their best interests.
This is a really interesting book (in PDF) to read about Luciferianism and Satan in the battle being waged in the material world to affect the spiritual:
SATAN, PRINCE OF THIS WORLD
Another interesting perspective on free will from those that have died and come back after learning about the other side:
http://www.near-death.com/science/resear...tence.html