(April 8, 2016 at 1:36 pm)AAA Wrote:(April 8, 2016 at 10:41 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: God is not an engineer; he is a magician. When he gathers up clay and breathes into man to animate him, that is literally how the "golem spell" is supposed to be performed. Your Bible says that your god used magic to create the Universe.
Some crackpot saying the Earth is hollow and Wikipedia having a properly formatted and cited article are two very different things. Interestingly enough, if you google "hollow earth theory," wikipedia comes up again, briefly describing the concept, its historical proponents, and the ample evidence against it (seismic, gravitational, etc.).
So yeah...the "not everything you see on TV is true" argument doesn't really apply to this. I didn't just dig up the first source that agrees with me, I chose one that was well supported. It's not like I went to Answers in Genesis or anything.
Also, the primary sources seem to mostly involve things we observe in cyanobacteria, algae, sea slugs, and other primitive life forms that haven't changed much in the billions of years the planet has had life on it. That's hardly speculative. We can see these more basic pieces of the evolutionary record still in use today by simple life forms.
You know not everyone thinks the creation story is exactly how it happened.
Also all those organisms you mention have something in common. They all have a fully functional metabolism. And yeah, they say it hasn't changed much in the billions of years, but what does that tell you? At the beginning, when genetic diversity would have been minimal, the cells somehow were able to evolve a diverse and complex system of metabolism that requires many different enzymes working together. Then after there is a lot more genetic variation (in the following billions of years) we don't see them evolving much more. And what do you mean that is hardly speculative?!?! Why do these life forms that live at the same time represent pieces of the evolutionary record to you?
We're still talking about the evolutionary record for photosynthesis, right?
Those organisms are part of the evolutionary record for photosynthesis (among other things, but I'm trying to stay on subject).
These organisms display metabolic processes and reactions that are simpler forms/pieces of the process known as photosynthesis, so they show how the process might have developed in steps from simpler ones.
It's hardly speculative because we can still study those life forms and come to conclusions based on direct observation. That is literally the opposite of speculative.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com