(April 11, 2016 at 9:54 pm)Goosebump Wrote: Haven't read through the entire thread but am I correct in assuming this is a "no true Scotsman" fallacy thread?
Also why point out Hitler when you have the Pagan persecutions, Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, Witch burning... there's so much history of crap done in christ's name. What's it matter if one really evil bastard was or wasn't? He was a theist. History is filled with blood in the name of theism.
NTS you betcha. The astounding proposition that none of them were True Christians™, despite their utterly solid belief in their own righteousness (sound familiar?), is probably the most amazing part of the evangelical Christian mindset, to me.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
