RE: Transexuals
April 13, 2016 at 11:37 am
(This post was last modified: April 13, 2016 at 11:38 am by TheRocketSurgeon.)
(April 13, 2016 at 11:27 am)Drich Wrote: The narrative is that all trans gendered people are mentally incompetent.
My argument is that the mentally ill should not be making policy for 99% of society.
What you seem to be doing is making the jump that I think all transsexuals are mentally incompetent. I did not. I cited the Mayo clinic for my numbers. 1% of the population struggles with GID of that 1% a fraction seeks medical help (most of which because they want to get a sex change and can't without a Dr. signing off.) that means a majority who suffer from Gender Identity Disorder go untreated. That fall under the definition of a mental ill.
So then I ask a question if the mentally represent a majority of this Group (transsexuals/people who suffer from untreated GID) why are they making rules for everyone else?
Then I went on to say that those who indeed have surgery (meaning they have stepped through all the treatment and psyc evalus needed for surgery) can indeed use the other bathroom, and no laws need be changed because physically/technically they are man/woman
It is the mentally ill/untreated that should not be able to come and go when and where they please. let alone be allowed to influence or change a law that opens our women and children to any perv who want to put on a dress and do what pervs do in women's bathrooms.
Now does your evaluation reflect the facts I have made in this post or in this thread? the answer is no. That is why I observed that you were creating your own narrative.
Holy hells, dude. They're not mentally incompetent. Do you even know anything about GID? It's a condition like depression (also in the DSM-V) which affects the individual who has not transitioned for whatever reason. Being in the DSM doesn't make a condition psychotic in some way.
Read. About. It.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_dysphoria
Signs and symptoms
Symptoms of GID in children include disgust at their own genitalia, social isolation from their peers, anxiety, loneliness and depression. According to the American Psychological Association, transgender children are more likely to experience harassment and violence in school, foster care, residential treatment centers, homeless centers and juvenile justice programs than other children.
Adults with GID are at increased risk for stress, isolation, anxiety, depression, poor self-esteem and suicide. Studies indicate that transgender people have an extremely high rate of suicide attempts; one study of 6,450 transgender people in the United States found 41% had attempted suicide, compared to a national average of 1.6%. It was also found that suicide attempts were less common among transgender people who said their family ties had remained strong after they came out, but even transgender people at comparatively low risk were still much more likely to have attempted suicide than the general population. Transgender people are also at heightened risk for certain mental disorders such as eating disorders.
In 2014, a researcher found that the brains of adolescents with gender dysphoria react to the sex hormone androstadienone in a measurable way similar to the brains of people of the gender with which the person identifies.
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