(April 15, 2016 at 8:11 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:(April 15, 2016 at 7:27 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't think the worry is that they'll be molested by a transperson. I think the worry is that a hetero man who has a peeping fetish and is NOT trans will pretend to be in order to easily gain access into women's rooms to peep.
So, again, why are we stepping on trans people in the interest of protections from non-trans people?
C_L, if a trans person identifies as a woman but still looks like a man, then they are likely to still be using the men's restroom. I have three trans friends, and one is just beginning her transition. Like most people, she is just trying to get by, but doesn't want the crazy ass people in TN all up in arms, so she still uses the men's room.
These fears you have are predicated on a lot of fear-mongering by right wing politicians. The likelihood of you ever even noticing a trans person in the bathroom with you is miniscule. It's probably happened many times already, you just didn't know it. This is the catastrophism that the GOP relies on, irrational fear based peddling of bigotry, in the name of "safety."
The funny thing is, if these bathroom laws had never existed, no one would have ever even noticed anything. Now we've created this bogey man that largely doesn't exist, and made it out to be an inevitability.
I don't think the goal is to "step on trans people" out of bigotry or anything like that. I think people are concerned that this may make it easier for a hetero man with a peeping fetish to pretend to be trans in order to easily gain access into women's rooms to peep.
Like I have said, this isn't a big fear of mine. My biggest reason for saying a 3rd bathroom is the best option is due to women feeling uncomfortable while in a bathroom/lockerroom with a person who is still physically male. However, I do think it is a valid concern that should be taken into account.
Did you see my post where I was asking you guys where you would draw the line (if one should be drawn at all) and if it should be different for lockerrooms?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
-walsh