(April 19, 2016 at 1:20 am)Sterben Wrote:(April 19, 2016 at 12:50 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: We can dispense with this "cosmetic" thing, though. Your personal opinion makes no difference in the real world. Doctors consider SRS a medically indicated procedure. That's the end of the discussion there, it's really not a subjective definition.Braces are one thing, having five babies is just stupid cause of the population problem we have, having a lot of intercourse is a personal choice; you assume all the risk. I have never seen a therapist, so my "head trauma" is a product of American society. Some doctors consider it a "Medically indicated procedure", what else could be considered in the category? Baldness, a tiny penis, small breasts, ect. To answer your question to the best of my ability, your "ACL Reconstruction" is covered since it's classified as injury, SRS is still has not become a main stream medical issue. As soon as they open the gates up for people to get SRS operations covered by base line insurance, that will cause people to push for breast implants to covered, then penis enlargement, what's next nose jobs and Botox? Where does one draw the line? What's the end all solution, offer the ultimate HMO or PPO that covers everything wrong with you?
My question still exists, since you've backtracked again: why should my elective ACL Reconstruction, which is medically indicated, be covered, while an elective SRS, which is medically indicated, isn't?
Then opt out of your company's insurance plan and buy your own on the marketplace. Otherwise you are lending everybody money when their kid gets braces (cosmetic) or when they decide to have 5 babies, or when they have sex a lot and get a UTI. Likewise, I'm sure they tire of paying for your repetitive head trauma.
The thing you don't seem to understand, Sterben, is that your medical "opinion" counts for exactly zero here. All those things that I mentioned are already covered in most mainline medical/dental plans. Your opinion about them means exactly nothing when applied to reality. You keep switching the goalposts here, stick to one position. You seem to think that whatever you think up could be considered a fact, because, what, it makes sense to you? No ACL reconstruction is not an injury, it's one medically indicated treatment for a physical trauma. It's an elective procedure because a person does not necessarily need ACL reconstruction to walk/function. I lived for 3 years without one.
The difference between people who want nose jobs for cosmetic issues and Botox to stop aging is that these people don't suffer from a legitimate and recognized mental dysphoria for which the physician recommended treatment is hormone therapy and SRS.
"Mainstream medicine..." I assume you're read up on the latest in mainstream medicine? A simple google scholar search shows that there are nearly 20,000 papers written on SRS, most in legitimate medical journals.
Reality works like this: if you pay into a plan that covers elective procedures, you are covered for elective procedures. You have yet to come up with a reason why SRS does not fall into this category, other than some hand waving and going back to this "cosmetic" argument, which only shows that you have no idea what Gender Dysphoria is or why SRS is often the recommended procedure for it.
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