My world is tearing apart

[Brian37]

Hi there C&S, welcome to the forum

I'm very sorry for what you're going through. You've done extremely well to get to the questioning stage at such a young age. So many people don't manage it in their whole lives. They die still believing in utter nonsense.

It's all nonsense garbage, the lot of it. There is no good answer to your question. You're right, an all knowing God would know exactly what we're all going to do and who is going to hell for it. It is not consistent with free will. Many religious people convince themselves that both are true at once, because they have to have both sides of the contradiction. Sometimes God is all knowing, sometimes we have free will. It's bullshit.

The God storybook characters are a total joke, and the only way anyone believes it in this day and age is through indoctrination, or immersion in the mythology. If you'd never heard of Allah or Muhammad or whatever, you'd have never found out about them on your own. Because they're not real. They exist only in people's minds.

A God who even has a "hell" in the first place is evil. Not much more to say. Now add in that he makes people knowing damn well he's going to put them there, and he's about the most evil creature imaginable. If such a thing is real, it deserves no respect or worship. It deserves contempt and defiance.

Luckily, it's not real. Why do religious zealots always have to act themselves? Why do they have to silence people, to stop their God being offended by insults? Why do they have to do his dirty work for him? Kill for him? Ostracise people for him? Because if they didn't, he wouldn't do fuck all. On some level, they must know this, or else they wouldn't feel the need to constantly meddle in the affairs of others and they'd trust he would sort it out himself.

So welcome, tentatively, to reality You're almost there. Feel free to ask any more questions. I have some links on my website here to many excellent atheist materials, some of which make the point by satire, some in serious ways. Hopefully they will help you think it all through.

Thank you four the link.

To be honest after finding that fundamentals flaw it feels like I been looking at my religion from a whole other perspective.

Especially that part of God knowing everything.
So many parts of it when he got angry at prophets like another person said in the forum.

Is there any more fundamental honestly all I really want right now is to fully let go with 100 % certainty.

If it is 80-90% I feel like I am gambling my way to hell.
I hope you guys understand my Ramblin it's hard to put what I am saying in such a eloquent way

Christians have their hell they threaten you with, but you rightfully wouldn't become a Christian if they threatened you.

I think a better explanation as to why is because humans looked up to the sky for god/s and saw land fire and volcanos and caves as dangerous places so they falsely perceived that as the punishment. Here are several concepts of hell throughout human history worldwide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell

http://matthewmeyer.net/blog/2014/03/02/...nese-hell/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yomi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yama_(East_Asia)

Aztec Hell
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mictlantecuhtli

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underworld

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naraka_(Hinduism)

There is no underworld or hell. Humans throughout history all over the world came up independently with their own ideas of magical rewards and punishment's in the afterlife. There is no deity, or god of any kind and there is no ground punisher to get anyone of an religion. 

That is not to say if you give up on your religion or any religion and accept the reality that you are finite, that you cant enjoy now while you have the time. You can still be good. Leaving religion does not advocate being lawless or being violent to others. It simply means you have accepted the ride ends. You've gone to a movie knowing it ends, but you still go. You go to a sporting event and it ends, but you still go. You read a book knowing it has a last page, but you still read it.

Neither heaven or hell exist. And that's fine. Leaving those superstitions behind frees you up to worry about now and love people now while you are alive.