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Timelessness
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RE: Timelessness
(April 25, 2016 at 5:39 pm)Time Traveler Wrote:
Timelessness
...Some theists want to imagine that God first existed prior to creating the universe, then created the universe (including, ironically, time itself). This is having their cake and eating it too. Others imagine God existing, considering, deciding, and creating the universe all at the same instant the universe came into being. But this implies God never existed prior to the universe, and thus if the universe had a beginning, so did God; or if God is eternal, so then the universe... [edit: emphasis mine]

Do you think it is possible that this formulation unconsciously imports temporal meaning into a reality where temporal expressions would have no meaning? What does existing "prior" to temporal events even mean (if anything)? I think that adds to the difficulty of the issue.
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Messages In This Thread
Timelessness - by Time Traveler - April 25, 2016 at 5:39 pm
RE: Timelessness - by Grandizer - April 25, 2016 at 5:51 pm
RE: Timelessness - by Edwardo Piet - April 25, 2016 at 7:20 pm
RE: Timelessness - by RoadRunner79 - April 25, 2016 at 8:04 pm
RE: Timelessness - by Time Traveler - April 26, 2016 at 9:41 am
RE: Timelessness - by Ignorant - April 26, 2016 at 10:51 am
RE: Timelessness - by RoadRunner79 - April 26, 2016 at 6:56 pm
RE: Timelessness - by robvalue - April 26, 2016 at 4:14 am
RE: Timelessness - by Alex K - April 26, 2016 at 4:16 am
RE: Timelessness - by Ignorant - April 26, 2016 at 5:49 am
RE: Timelessness - by AFTT47 - April 26, 2016 at 12:19 pm
RE: Timelessness - by robvalue - April 26, 2016 at 12:23 pm
RE: Timelessness - by Alex K - April 26, 2016 at 12:28 pm
RE: Timelessness - by Time Traveler - April 26, 2016 at 2:34 pm
RE: Timelessness - by AFTT47 - April 26, 2016 at 3:04 pm
RE: Timelessness - by Time Traveler - April 26, 2016 at 4:03 pm
RE: Timelessness - by deleteduser12345 - April 26, 2016 at 4:22 pm
RE: Timelessness - by Time Traveler - April 26, 2016 at 4:36 pm
RE: Timelessness - by Edwardo Piet - April 26, 2016 at 4:41 pm
RE: Timelessness - by AFTT47 - April 26, 2016 at 5:00 pm
RE: Timelessness - by SteveII - April 27, 2016 at 9:38 am
RE: Timelessness - by Time Traveler - April 27, 2016 at 12:41 pm
RE: Timelessness - by SteveII - April 27, 2016 at 12:53 pm
RE: Timelessness - by Time Traveler - April 27, 2016 at 4:07 pm
RE: Timelessness - by SteveII - April 28, 2016 at 6:46 am
RE: Timelessness - by Time Traveler - April 28, 2016 at 11:19 am
RE: Timelessness - by SteveII - April 28, 2016 at 12:16 pm
RE: Timelessness - by Time Traveler - April 28, 2016 at 1:38 pm
RE: Timelessness - by Alex K - April 28, 2016 at 4:35 pm
RE: Timelessness - by Time Traveler - April 28, 2016 at 1:55 pm
RE: Timelessness - by Ignorant - April 28, 2016 at 4:55 am
RE: Timelessness - by Time Traveler - April 28, 2016 at 11:30 am
RE: Timelessness - by robvalue - April 28, 2016 at 12:24 pm
RE: Timelessness - by robvalue - April 28, 2016 at 5:58 am
RE: Timelessness - by SteveII - May 2, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: Timelessness - by Time Traveler - May 2, 2016 at 6:08 pm



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