Transexuals

[TheRocketSurgeon]

Transsexuals suffer from a diagnosable affliction called Gender dysphoria or gender identity disorder. So then how is this not a mental illness if the word/term mental illness literally means:

Mental illness refers to a wide range of mental health conditions — disorders that affect your mood, thinking and behavior. Examples of mental illness include depression, anxiety disorders, schizophrenia, eating disorders and addictive behaviors.
(as per the Mayo clinic)

If this is a mental disorder, then why do we allow the patients to run the asylum? Why do we have mentally compromised people trying to set a national policy that allows them to indulge their disorder?

would we allow people afflicted with Munchhausen access to their kids? Or if you want to look at other people who just hurt themselves, would we allow people who want to cut themselves places they could do so?

Ok, so let's say it's a mental condition.  I can see how that argument could be made, so let's roll with it.


Do you have a better, more effective treatment for gender dysphoria that you know of?  I mean, mental condition or not, a treatment is needed and as far as I know, this is the only one that really works.

The scientific/psychologic consensus has been that transition IS actually the best treatment for gender dysphoria.  I've watched people try countless other ways to "cure" themselves of transsexuality and the results aren't pretty.  Many of these struggles end in suicide or a kind of pseudo-suicide from dangerous activities.  I spent years, fighting it, only to make my life worse and worse.  Now that I've accepted who and what I am, I can try to fix my life and repair some of the bridges I've burnt.  I also watch my boyfriend, who is also transsexual, as his mood gets worse and worse when he needs his testosterone shot.  

And nothing else has worked.  Meditation hasn't worked.  Prayer hasn't worked.  Fixing a relationship with one or both of my parents hasn't worked.  Rejecting traditional rules about masculinity or femininity hasn't worked and neither has acccepting those rules.  Are the critics saying that there is only one treatment to gender dysphoria and I should reject it?  What kind of lunacy is that?

Glad you're back, TaraJo!

Don't worry about Dripbag, there. We've already sorted him out on why Gender Dysphoria isn't a mental disorder because a person is trans, but because of how society treats trans people, as you testified to in that bit, and is cured by the treatments... therefore nothing he said was valid. I think you'd enjoy some of the exchanges we've had in this thread, before it devolved into banter at the end.

The kind of psychotic/sociopathic thinking Dripbag demonstrates for us angers me so much, but it does fit the Christian pattern: 1) create the problem, and 2) offer an "answer" to the created problem.

They did it with sin/salvation. They did it with hijacking marriage as if they invented it and then claiming that people who wanted access to it were violating their rights. Now they do it by pointing to higher suicide rates and other psychological problems among gays and trans people, completely ignoring the fact that the only reason those stats are like they are is because of Christian-culture-based persecution.

I'd actually like some of your input on several of my posts, but of course I don't want you to feel like you have to be a spokesperson. Just, if you see anything worthy of comment, please feel free to rip my cis-understanding to shreds, if necessary.

Welcome back!