(April 26, 2016 at 9:36 pm)Shadow_Man Wrote: I do not at all concede that just because God knows the future we must therefore be living in the past. However, even if I am nothing more than my own history book, I am still a history of me thinking my own thoughts and making my own free will choices. Nothing you have said demands otherwise.
Your god cannot see the future of free will. If your god can monitor and calculate every single wave/particle reaction/event, then your god will know what will happen, but then we are merely puppets of determinism. If your god can 'see' into the future, then it must have already happened and again, we are merely puppets, but this time of history. Your perception may give you the appearance of free will, but it cannot be so as you are just playing out a history that has already happened or are simply a product of determined quantum reactions. Free will would, by definition, force a random variable into the universe and that cannot be known until it happens or it is not free will.
(April 26, 2016 at 9:36 pm)Shadow_Man Wrote: Here is what I do. I read message board posts. I copy them into Notepad. I write responses. I think about them and edit them for a few days to get them just right. Then I post them on the message board. When you are reading this it will be my thoughts from several days ago. When you read them will they have been written with no free will involved because I wrote them in the past? No.
Time is irrelevant.
You do not know for a fact (nor can you) that you are nothing more than a computer simulation that was just started at this moment and everything you know was just simply programmed into your avatar.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
