[ARCHIVED] - Creation vs. Evolution

[Tiberius]

BUt I just wanted to add that I'm not an expert either, but I do know that What we are explaining is a proven fact. THAT is science.

Ok, well if it is proven fact you should be able to give some evidence to support it. What evidence do you have that supports creationism?

What you are explaining has never (or since we haven't proven it yet, we'll give you the benefit of the doubt and saying that only ONCE in BILLIONS of years) ever been proven.

Not proven no, but all the evidence currently supports it. Certain things have been proven (the fact that organisms evolve by mutation for example).

Darwin himself said that if his theory was correct, that the proof would be all over, in fossil records and such. He basically disproved his own theory!!

Darwin did say this, and the fossil record has given us a mountain of fossils that support evolution. He didn't disprove his theory, his theory was supported by the fossil record and that was the main reason it gained popularity amongst scientists before the genetic code was discovered. Once the genetic code was discovered, it also fitted perfectly with the evolution model. I can only assume you haven't looked at the fossil record at all if you think Evolution is disproven by it.

And Evolution is primarily the idea that things go from simple to more complex, is it not? That is what my friend was saying.

No. Evolution is the fact that all organisms replicate, and that sometimes their genes mutate whilst replicating. The theory of Evolution states that the mutations that benefit the organism are selected through nature to survive (due to that organism being more likely to survive and reproduce). An organism could easily become less complex if the environment changed in such a way. It all depends on the environment the organism is in.