Jörmungandr,
Is that how you spell that? I always wondered.
Your analogy fails because you are applying it incorrectly. Duress only applies when you are forced to commit a crime and then punished for commiting that crime. That is not what is happening.
The law applies the carrot and the stick to encourage good behavior, rewarding the good and punishing the bad. God does too.
The law applying the carrot and the stick does not rob you of your free will. Neither does God.
Free will does not demand that we are able to control the outcome - only that we have the ability to make up our own mind and make our own choices within our ability to enact them. Outcomes are frequently beyond our control.
The proof is in the pudding. My statement remains true despite your protest. The world in general, and this message board in particular, stand as evidence to its veracity. 5 years of being here is long enough for you to have seen it with your own eyes. You can imagine no greater coercion, yet even that does not rob your companions of their free will and choice to reject Heaven and embrace hell.
Regards,
Shadow_Man
Jörmungandr Wrote:Mularkey.
Is that how you spell that? I always wondered.
Jörmungandr Wrote:There's a reason why decisions made under duress have lesser consequences in law than those freely made. Our ability to control the outcome is compromised by duress. The individual coercing another has usurped control. I can't imagine any greater duress than the threat of an eternal punishment.
Your analogy fails because you are applying it incorrectly. Duress only applies when you are forced to commit a crime and then punished for commiting that crime. That is not what is happening.
The law applies the carrot and the stick to encourage good behavior, rewarding the good and punishing the bad. God does too.
The law applying the carrot and the stick does not rob you of your free will. Neither does God.
Jörmungandr Wrote:Our ability to control the outcome is compromised by duress.
Free will does not demand that we are able to control the outcome - only that we have the ability to make up our own mind and make our own choices within our ability to enact them. Outcomes are frequently beyond our control.
Jörmungandr Wrote:Your statement is pure poppycock.
The proof is in the pudding. My statement remains true despite your protest. The world in general, and this message board in particular, stand as evidence to its veracity. 5 years of being here is long enough for you to have seen it with your own eyes. You can imagine no greater coercion, yet even that does not rob your companions of their free will and choice to reject Heaven and embrace hell.
Regards,
Shadow_Man
