(April 30, 2016 at 2:40 pm)Wryetui Wrote: I can see pretty well that here people do not actually want to learn anything, you have proven to be very aggresive to the views you do not agree with, and did what you knew best, as I see, mockery and ridiculizing. Collectively in this post I have seen that you have very wrong ideas about christianity and, the worst of all, you do not plan on learning about why they are wrong but rather shield yourselves against everything that will go against your beliefs. It is very curious, in my opinion, that you show exactly the same behavior as your fellow "christian" debaters, but that doesn't seem to bother you.
The german philosopher, Wilhelm Hegel, held an interesting idea: You have to be very attentive at the ideas that are contrary to yours because they, most likely, hold a truth inside them. It is very clear to me that your atheism show all the "garbage" that protestant and roman-catholic theology begot, and your atheism is the refutation of the God that is a product to said theology, that is why aggresiveness is shown in every each of you when talking about this said God.
I have the suspicion that men today believe in God more than at any other time in human history. Men know the gospel, the teaching of the Church, and God’s creation better than at any other time. They have a profound consciousness of His existence. Their atheism is not a real disbelief. It is rather an aversion toward somebody we know very well but whom we hate with all our heart, exactly as the demons do.
You hate God, that is you we ignore Him, overlooking Him as if you did not see Him, and pretending to be atheists. In reality you consider Him your enemy par excellence. Your negation is your vengeance, your atheism is your revenge. But why do you hate God? You hate Him not only because "your" deeds are dark while God is light, but also because you consider Him as a menace, as an imminent and eternal danger, as an adversary in court, as an opponent at law, as a public prosecutor and an eternal persecutor. To you, God is no more the almighty physician who came to save them from illness and death to you, but rather a cruel judge and a vengeful inquisitor.
You see, the devil managed to make men believe that God does not really love us, that He really only loves Himself, and that He accepts us only if we behave as He wants us to behave; that He hates us if we do not behave as He ordered us to behave, and is offended by our insubordination to such a degree that we must pay for it by eternal tortures, created by Him for that purpose.
Who can love a torturer? Even those who try hard to save themselves from the wrath of God cannot really love Him. They love only themselves, trying to escape God’s vengeance and to achieve eternal bliss by managing to please this fearsome and extremely dangerous Creator. Do you perceive the devil’s slander of our all loving, all kind, and absolutely good God? That is why in Greek the devil was given the name diabolos, “the slanderer”.
Wow, thanks for psychoanalyzing all of us. Unfortunately you are wrong. I can't hate something I don't believe exists in the first place. But if you need to tell yourself that because it gives you some kind of strange comfort, than so be it. Your God of the scripture is a murderous, vengeful, controlling, petty creature with anger management issues and an insatiable thirst for blood. I mean, I'm assuming you've read the OT? Yahweh is one of the most morally bankrupt characters in all of human history. So, even if he were real, I'd never worship him.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.