(May 7, 2016 at 9:07 am)IATIA Wrote:(May 7, 2016 at 8:20 am)Shadow_Man Wrote: No. Many of your fellows have declared unequivocally that if Christianity was true then they would still choose hell rather than Heaven.
What do you mean "if Christianity was true"? Of course it is true. Now whether or not christ ever lived is a different story. He certainly was not the 'son' of a non-existent deity. If he lived, he was nothing more than a wandering preacher.
As to christianity, at the 'pure' level, it is just as good or bad as any other 'prophet' in attempting to teach goodness. This information is nothing new. The teaching of goodness shows up in the early writings of Mesopotamia, Babylon, Sumeria, etc. and continues throughout the ages to present day writings, be it fiction, nonfiction, myth or legend. There is nothing special about christ, just a cog in the wheel.
It is once the tyrannical, warmongering god comes into the picture that one chooses hell. Heaven offers nothing but servitude. The opposition of god offers true freedom. It was god's opposition that helped free Adam and Eve. No killings can be directly attributed to god's opposition. One can bring up Job's story, but firstly, there is nothing that says god's opposition did the actual killing, only that it participated in a bet which resulted in killing. It may be the opposition did not really expect god to kill just to make a point or god's opposition may never have participated in the bet in the first place.
Am I against christianity? Not in and of itself, but I am strongly against religion, any religion.
Would I choose Hell over heaven? I do not believe in either, but for sake of argument, I would absolutely choose Hell over heaven.
And remember, if heaven is supposed to be the shit, then why did one third of the angels rebel?
Remember though god gave some angels and lucifer free will they knew how god was and wanted nothing to do with him which isn't shocking at all
because it paints a one sided view of god this perfect all loving being despite being a monster is "all loving" and kills people for the hell of it. The devil
did no wrong, did not lie and he told the truth. There are times when god lied in the bible through proxy to get people killed. There is times in the bible
were the devil showed that he/she/it cares about human life when it came down to jesus he warned the guy to eat and drink in the desert and warned him
that he was going to die. That is saying a lot of a being was so evil why would it bother showing empathy to a person who is going down the road of self
destruction and meaningless sacrifice, that itself says a lot the devil cares about people if the devil didn't he wouldn't have warned jesus. Now god on the other hand
ask some guy to kill his own son on a mountain and has a angel come down to stop him at the last moment. Out of all the biblical stories the devil shown more kindness
and compassion and empathy than god has in whole and the rest is just ass kissing god.
The devil is actually good but no one want's to accept that as fact
god of the bible is evil and no one want's to accept that.
Atheism is a non-prophet organization join today.
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