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Free will

~~Edwardo Piet~~

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RE: Free will

May 7, 2016 at 12:43 pm (This post was last modified: May 7, 2016 at 12:45 pm by Edwardo Piet.)

If there is an illusion of free will, what would the illusion of the absence of free will look like?

"Free will" is such an incoherent concept that it doesn't even exist as an illusion. There is no illusion of free will. There is a cognitive illusion of a perceptual illusion of free will that doesn't even exist by itself as a perceptual illusion, that's what there is.

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