(April 9, 2011 at 7:45 pm)Dotard Wrote:void Wrote:American workers have a decent quality of life,
You only demonstrated you are not an American worker. I am and this 'quality' you speak of is lacking.
You're a naive non-american if you really think wages are determined by the workers. Wages are as the song goes; "I'm taking what they're givin' 'cause I'm working for a living." They are set and determined by some fat-man sitting behind a desk. I know your 'Adrianish' response, 'If you ain't happy with what is being paid, don't work there'. Yeah, it's that easy, you can starve and sleep in the gutters until you get one that will pay you a living wage.
The average american WORKER lives paycheck to paycheck and is only one missed payday from disaster. Miss a payday, lose your home and you're out on the street.
If it wasn't for the government stepping in and setting a minimum wage allowed by law then these fat-asses behind desks would still be paying $2 an hour and saying "Fuck you, you don't like it, leave."
So I take it that you are somewhat on the left side of the political scale? Me? I am center left (progressive, moderate left leaning..so many tags...) but I dont agree with every single thing every progressives say. For example, I am against "progressives" who want to take our second amendment. Honestly though, I dont see hardly any American Progressives (What I would call Teddy Roosevelt, or Bull moose progressives, such as myself) wanting to fuck with the 2nd amendment as I see "leftists" (general word for socialists and communists) and modern liberals (basically "liberal" in general. They want all this freaking paper work tied to it, and registrations and shit)
I have seen communists going to American Progressive forums trying to say "Yeah, Im an american progressive". I ask them "So what do you think of Teddy Roosevelt?" One actually said "He was an imperialist scum, I hate him and his guns!"... well, its pretty obvious that SOMEONE is communist in the forum, posing as an AP.