(May 10, 2016 at 10:55 am)Jehanne Wrote:(May 10, 2016 at 9:58 am)SteveII Wrote: You are asking the same thing as "can God make a rock so big that he can't pick it up". No, God cannot do logically impossible things like count all the natural numbers.
Seems like special pleading to say that god can create something out of nothing, as others have pointed out. But, as I have asked (as have others), when did god go from being "timeless" to being "timely" (sorry if that is not the correct word); what caused god to change states?
If I could chime in. I would still argue, that if you start with nothing on one side of the equation, that you will have nothing on the other side. I think that the doctrine of "Ex Nihilo" which is derived from scripture, is stating that God created everything from himself. That there was nothing outside of God, with which he was working.
As to your second question, I would not say that God changed states, so I can't answer that particular question.