(May 11, 2016 at 6:33 pm)Shadow_Man Wrote: And that is your problem. You are so entwined with the future and the past that you entirely ignore the present. You seem to forget that if the future exists, and if the past exists, then it is necessary that at one time the present existed. As I pointed out previously, even if you exist in the past, at one point what you are doing was done in the present, and it was at that time that your free will expressed itself. You are the exact evidence that you were operating in accordance with your own free will in those moments.
Wrong! You are still missing the point. If the future exists, then we are the past. There is no present. There is no moment when free will can be or has been expressed. Every moment of your existence has already happened (or been created). If you are expressing free will right now, then there is no future. The future cannot exist under a free will scenario until the choice is made. If the future exists, then right now you are obligated to follow that path, i.e., no free will. If the future exists then there is no choice to make and no free will. You cannot have free will and a future any more than god making a rock so heavy it cannot be moved by god.
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-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
