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Shia Islamic Argument for the existence of God
RE: Shia Islamic Argument for the existence of God
(May 12, 2016 at 5:28 pm)MrSantaClaus Wrote:
(May 12, 2016 at 2:33 pm)TheMuslim Wrote: It is nonsensical to say that there is no reality. If the claim "there is no reality" is taken to be true, then that would mean that reality really doesn't exist. But if reality really doesn't exist, its non-existence is real - its non-existence is a real phenomenon and state of affairs - its non-existence is a reality. No particular can exist without a universal (even if there is only one instance of a reality, it implies that a reality exists). Hence we have a contradiction - which is precisely why saying such a thing ("there is no reality") is nonsensical.

You may even ignore the above exposition and just read the following and then tell me what part of it you don't understand (or what part of it you don't agree with for logical reasons).

If you say that reality's non-existence is a reality, then you're contradicting yourself (you're saying there's no reality, and yet also implying that that's a reality - hence admitting that a reality exists).

If you say that reality's non-existence is not a reality, then you're saying precisely what the demonstration is saying (i.e. reality's non-existence is not a reality).

Before I respond, I must make clear that I am not saying that nothing is real. I am simply demonstrating why the reasoning you offer in disproving that statement is incorrect.

You are just saying exactly what the text said in a very slightly different manner and repeating yourself. 
Let's look at what "real" means. "Real" means actually existing. If something is said to be real, it is simply being said that it exists.

I remember pressing "Save as Draft" instead of post reply. I was interrupted in the middle of writing out my response. I can't delete or edit it now.
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RE: Shia Islamic Argument for the existence of God - by MrSantaClaus - May 12, 2016 at 10:40 pm

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