(May 18, 2016 at 3:54 am)quip Wrote:Quote:Anyway. You can't just say "a deity must come up at some point" without any evidence. I strongly dislike that because we've heard it several times and none who claim such things have succeeded in convincing me or anyone else here in AF as to why a deity must be and none of them got evidence. You must understand that our lack of knowledge is not evidence for a deity. If I'm wrong, tell me why. Even if we can never answer this question it still isn't evidence for a deity because we are simply humans and our knowledge is limited.
I'm specifically and explicitly not positing any form of deity. I'm simply offering up food for thought...a "reasonable doubt" to the atheist perspective, if you will.
Quote:What I think is happening here is, since you're human, your brain tries to find patterns and make sense of random data. the random data being something along individuals and consciousness. There's even a word for that, Apophenia.
What patterns have I meted out? I'm simply referring to the self...clearly a self-evident proposition. (for lack of an alternate term.)
Quote:And yes I've had the thought about why I am me and not him/her the longer I thought about it the less sense it made. It was like one of those moments where you repeat a word several times and it loses its meaning :p
Yes, I understand.
Aye, ok. My english is not very good when it comes to some finer, more advanced or "sophisticated" words or whatever one calls them, so excuse me if I wrongly interpret what you're saying. Anyway, at least to me, this is still not a reasonable doubt. Anything that would make me doubt my lack of belief in a deity would be evidence.
The pattern that I assumed you were trying to find was somewhere between: Why I am the conscious observer of specifically this body and not someone elses body, and I assumed that the answer you found for that "pattern" was a deity, and I was wrong.