RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 22, 2016 at 9:57 pm
(This post was last modified: May 22, 2016 at 10:01 pm by quip.)
(May 22, 2016 at 8:48 pm)Whateverist the White Wrote:(May 17, 2016 at 3:44 pm)quip Wrote: Can anyone answer why you're you.....and not me?
Do you actually assume there would be a reason?
Yes.
Philosopher, Theologians have shown that there are limits to reason. Why do you assume that a rational take on reality is not free of limitation?
Quote:(May 17, 2016 at 3:44 pm)quip Wrote: By what method of determination do I experience existence separate from your experience;
The obvious thing to say is that the sensory/cognitive functioning of your organism only feeds into what you call your experience and not into mine.
Tis' not in contention...at least not by me.
Quote:(May 17, 2016 at 3:44 pm)quip Wrote: more to the point, what determined both our particular experiences and could one have been shunt in place of another (by what alternate means could I have experienced existence through your perspective or vice versa)?
This doesn't seem to make sense. Why do you assume there is any 'you' apart from what arises in relation to the experience of your organism?
I don't, that's your misinterpretation.
Quote:(May 17, 2016 at 3:44 pm)quip Wrote: Why here, why now...why not exist a thousand years from now or a thousand years past?
You can ask this about anything whatsoever. It isn't any more significant asked in this context than in any other.
Yes it is. The self-evident nature of the "I" holds to undeniable subjective ontological examination/context...one entirely unavailable to an otherwise extrinsic existent.
Quote:(May 17, 2016 at 3:44 pm)quip Wrote: Can this ever be coherently approached or determined materialistically/scientifically?
No. For science to come into play you would need to ask a coherent question, and one which can then be investigated empirically.
I agree.
Whether the empiric method suffices is where we differ.
Quote:(May 17, 2016 at 3:44 pm)quip Wrote: Or, is metaphysics a fundamental necessity?
What do you mean by metaphysics? Is that code for unbridled theorizing devoid of any empirical evidence?
Otherwise known as "woo".
(May 22, 2016 at 9:41 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Funny...I don't recall my consciousness floating around before I was born...
That's probably because consciousness requires a brain/host.