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Can a slug be God?
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RE: Can a slug be God?
(May 25, 2016 at 10:28 am)Kingpin Wrote:
(May 14, 2016 at 4:41 am)robvalue Wrote: This is mainly aimed at theists, but everyone is welcome to chime in. I'm still totally lacking any coherent notion of what a god is.

Is it defined by its qualities? Or by its achievements? Its status? What?

Consider this scenario. A long time ago, all that existed was a slug. That's it, a slug. Nothing predates the slug.

Suddenly, the slug creates all of the rest of reality around it somehow. Maybe this was deliberate, maybe it did it by accident. Now it exists alongside everything else. Along with this creation came the rules regarding harm and death, which previously did not apply. The slug lives out its days, then dies. Fast forward several billion years, and we have the present day.

So my question is this: would this slug be a god? If not, why not, and what else would make it into one?

It's irrelevant how the slug did this, or if it's possible, since these are never considerations when gods are discussed.

I will bite.  Wink

We get in to a slippery territory when we start debating definitions as definitions seem to evolve and at times be subjective.  

In the scenario you described I would define the slug as a Creator, not a God.  Why?  Because the slug died.  Death is a natural occurrence.  ALL biological entities are constrained by the limits of nature and will cease to exist.  "God" by definition is outside of natural law, space and time and would have no limits.  Limitations only make sense in a universe governed by demonstrable limits.  This concept is difficult to grasp since we are constrained by limits and have no way to apply personal experiences to such deistic qualities.

A "God" is really just an entity that is outside of and not limited by their creation.  They make the rules, they can manipulate as they choose to and the creation is bound to the limits set upon it.
My question to you would then be, was Jesus 100% god, 100% human, both, or neither?  Because when people say that "Jesus died for your sins," they aren't talking only about the body-puppet he was inhabiting at the time, otherwise "Jesus" as an entity never really died, he just left his 'host' body.  I see a problem here if you claim that Jesus is God, a God cannot die, and Jesus died for our sins.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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Messages In This Thread
Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 14, 2016 at 4:41 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 14, 2016 at 5:18 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Homeless Nutter - May 14, 2016 at 5:36 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 14, 2016 at 5:46 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by ignoramus - May 14, 2016 at 7:11 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Aoi Magi - May 14, 2016 at 7:37 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 14, 2016 at 7:54 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by ignoramus - May 14, 2016 at 10:24 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by The Grand Nudger - May 14, 2016 at 10:42 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by paulpablo - May 14, 2016 at 11:00 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by popeyespappy - May 14, 2016 at 11:34 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by downbeatplumb - May 14, 2016 at 12:29 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by The Grand Nudger - May 14, 2016 at 12:42 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Joods - May 14, 2016 at 1:06 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 14, 2016 at 5:29 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Alex K - May 14, 2016 at 6:15 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by brewer - May 14, 2016 at 6:21 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Joods - May 14, 2016 at 6:28 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by deleteduser12345 - May 25, 2016 at 10:59 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Aroura - May 14, 2016 at 6:32 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 17, 2016 at 10:07 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by ignoramus - May 17, 2016 at 10:11 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by dom.donald - May 17, 2016 at 11:29 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by The Valkyrie - May 17, 2016 at 11:34 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by ignoramus - May 17, 2016 at 11:58 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 18, 2016 at 5:38 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Joods - May 25, 2016 at 10:01 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Kingpin - May 25, 2016 at 10:28 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by FatAndFaithless - May 25, 2016 at 10:33 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Kingpin - May 25, 2016 at 10:45 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Gemini - May 25, 2016 at 10:37 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Kingpin - May 25, 2016 at 10:46 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by SofaKingHigh - May 25, 2016 at 10:40 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by FatAndFaithless - May 25, 2016 at 10:47 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Kingpin - May 25, 2016 at 10:52 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by FatAndFaithless - May 25, 2016 at 10:55 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 26, 2016 at 12:39 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by FatAndFaithless - May 26, 2016 at 12:43 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 26, 2016 at 2:12 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 25, 2016 at 10:59 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by ignoramus - May 25, 2016 at 7:14 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 26, 2016 at 1:45 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 26, 2016 at 12:08 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 26, 2016 at 12:37 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 26, 2016 at 12:41 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 26, 2016 at 12:44 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 26, 2016 at 2:27 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 27, 2016 at 1:37 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 27, 2016 at 1:54 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by ignoramus - May 26, 2016 at 5:34 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 26, 2016 at 5:40 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Thumpalumpacus - May 26, 2016 at 5:48 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by ignoramus - May 26, 2016 at 6:46 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 27, 2016 at 3:40 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 28, 2016 at 4:44 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 28, 2016 at 4:21 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 28, 2016 at 5:06 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 28, 2016 at 5:44 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 28, 2016 at 6:02 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 28, 2016 at 5:53 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 28, 2016 at 9:04 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 28, 2016 at 6:03 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 29, 2016 at 7:33 am
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 29, 2016 at 12:35 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Ignorant - May 29, 2016 at 12:36 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by Heatheness - May 29, 2016 at 12:53 pm
RE: Can a slug be God? - by robvalue - May 29, 2016 at 1:20 pm

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