RE: Free will
May 25, 2016 at 6:55 pm
(This post was last modified: May 25, 2016 at 6:59 pm by IATIA.)
(May 25, 2016 at 3:51 pm)Ignorant Wrote: Yes, so he has knowledge of both the possible choices (i.e. possible outcomes) AND the actual choice.
This means that his knowledge of the ACTUAL outcome DOES NOT conflict with the reality of the possible choices.
In other words, it can't be an actual choice if there are no truly possible choices.
If god knows both, then he knows that your "ending this conversation" IS a choice, one real contingency along with one possible contingency.
If that is the case, then an all-knowing god is compatible with real choices.
Are those choices free? That is a different question.
If god knows the outcome, then there are no choices or possibilities.
There are 36 possible combinations in a single roll of the dice. If god already knows how the dice will land, the other 35 possibilities are completely irrelevant as they could never display on that roll or that would disprove god's infallibility.
The same goes for anything. You have a choice, the red pill or the blue pill. If god knows that you will pick the blue pill (even I know you would pick the blue pill) then it is impossible for you to choose the red pill, ergo, no choice.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy
