Free will

[dyresand]

Yes we disagree. You wrote "I must choose whatever is described ["regardless of whether events happen contingently"]". <= This doesn't make ANY sense.

I didn't ask you whether or not we agreed that events are or aren't contingent- which is explicitly the point of phrasing the question in such a manner.  Do we disagree regarding the subject of the question I asked?  Can I choose b, if gods foreknowledge says a?  

Tell me again how the concept of possible options is irrelevant to your opinion of free will?

NP, already elaborated upon with the example of the roads.  Having two -actual- roads in front of you, let alone wispy "possible roads"....doesn't speak to choice or free will.  Does the train choose which of two tracks it goes down?  Does it use it's free will?  No, and no.  Much time is wasted trying to establish options as though this established choice or free will.  

You're right, that isn't my intention AT ALL. Clearly, you are struggling to distinguish contingency from choice and freedom. That is ok, I did too.

"you don't agree because you don't understand" - said every forum apologist ever.  I do understand, I still disagree.  I keep telling you that I'm not discussing the nature of contingency, not making any claims regarding determinism..but you keep going on about it.

Does a fruit tree make fruit according to certain conditions or not?

Why does it matter, we're discussing free will and foreknowledge, not fruit set on my peaches.

he is a apologist indeed someone wants their cake and eat it too.