First of all-fraud. Are you telling me that for the last 900 years or so, monks have been finding what they concider to be the reincarnation of most lama's that are even remotly important due to fraud? The mountain of coincidences which surround these events may point to this assumption if you think 'rationaly' but think what this would involve.
At the end of any remotly important lama's life (unless otherwise stated by the said lama), a group of people go out to find a person who was born (concived?) at or near the moment of that lama's death in the direction that the lama was looking when he/she died (or in directions laid down in visions etc). This is a feat in itself, but then we concider that a new incarnation must pass a set of tests in which they must identify old clothes etc which belonged to the old lama from AMONG other, unrelated cloths and, after the preliminary testing, pass further tests to confirm that they are the new incarnation of that lama, it seems impossibe without fruad or acctual spiritual guidence/reincarnation.
This could all be conincidences, but when we concider its repeated reocurance down the centuries, this seems unlikley.
Maybe it is faked? Again, this seems unlikley when we look at the situation again. First of all, who is faking it? A secret society, the Dali Lama or the entire Buddhist religion, just for the heck of it?
Secondly, why are they faking it at all? There must be some reason or they (whoever they are) would not bother doing it. Presumably electing new lama's (like the Catholics elect Pope's etc) would be more convineant for all (they can keep a firm hand on the reins of power and no costly search etc) so why bother?
And then there is the most important reason why it can not be fakery. How do they keep it secret? None of the Lama's seem aware of this so-called fraud, so how do you keep something like that secret for so long without telling the people involved in your fraud? Surely someone would cotton on to the fact?
Maybe the Lama's are in on it but are lying? Not only does this seem far to snug (really, nobel peace prize winners lying so openly?) it is highly improbable. 'Three men can keep a secret, but only if two of them are dead' as they say. The chances of keeping a secret in for such a long time, with so many people involved is near impossible.
If you can answer me these questions, I will reconsider reincarnation, but this is the evidence which has prompted me to put forwrad reincarnation as a hypothesis. I would still like to see the evidence against reincarnation Kyu.
At the end of any remotly important lama's life (unless otherwise stated by the said lama), a group of people go out to find a person who was born (concived?) at or near the moment of that lama's death in the direction that the lama was looking when he/she died (or in directions laid down in visions etc). This is a feat in itself, but then we concider that a new incarnation must pass a set of tests in which they must identify old clothes etc which belonged to the old lama from AMONG other, unrelated cloths and, after the preliminary testing, pass further tests to confirm that they are the new incarnation of that lama, it seems impossibe without fruad or acctual spiritual guidence/reincarnation.
This could all be conincidences, but when we concider its repeated reocurance down the centuries, this seems unlikley.
Maybe it is faked? Again, this seems unlikley when we look at the situation again. First of all, who is faking it? A secret society, the Dali Lama or the entire Buddhist religion, just for the heck of it?
Secondly, why are they faking it at all? There must be some reason or they (whoever they are) would not bother doing it. Presumably electing new lama's (like the Catholics elect Pope's etc) would be more convineant for all (they can keep a firm hand on the reins of power and no costly search etc) so why bother?
And then there is the most important reason why it can not be fakery. How do they keep it secret? None of the Lama's seem aware of this so-called fraud, so how do you keep something like that secret for so long without telling the people involved in your fraud? Surely someone would cotton on to the fact?
Maybe the Lama's are in on it but are lying? Not only does this seem far to snug (really, nobel peace prize winners lying so openly?) it is highly improbable. 'Three men can keep a secret, but only if two of them are dead' as they say. The chances of keeping a secret in for such a long time, with so many people involved is near impossible.
If you can answer me these questions, I will reconsider reincarnation, but this is the evidence which has prompted me to put forwrad reincarnation as a hypothesis. I would still like to see the evidence against reincarnation Kyu.
