(June 8, 2016 at 12:18 am)wiploc Wrote:(June 7, 2016 at 2:47 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: 1. A tri-Omni entity who can't do better than this world is a contradiction in terms.
2. Lots of excuses, none of them plausible.
Traditionally, the excuses mostly consist of temporarily forgetting that god is supposed to be omnipotent, or that that he is supposed to be omniscient, or that he's supposed to be omnibenevolent. I say temporarily because the people who give up god's benevolence for the sake of argument will then turn around and worship him for his goodness.
So I like to say that the art of defending against the problem of evil consists largely of not realizing what you have given up. To be consistent, you have to give up omnipotence, omniscience, or omnibenevolence; but, to continue worshiping a tri-omni god, you have to not realize that you gave it up.
But these people, people who actually give up omnipotence, omniscience, or omnibenevolence (as opposed to just making a feint in that direction and then reverting to their prior beliefs) don't have any reason to argue against the PoE. They already know that a tri-omni god can't coexist with evil, which is why their gods aren't tri-omni.
While stated often, I don't think that the case has been made, where logically; to be omnibenevolent, other good attributes must be forsaken. The argument is normally presented as a simple and naïve false dichotomy. One where comfort and happiness are presented as supreme, and the one making the argument seems to forget about everything else.
I agree with Steve, that it is more of an emotional problem, than a logical one.
Let me ask you, if I told you that there was a fix for the things you attribute to the problem of evil; would you do everything within your power, to save as many as you could from suffering?