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The heavy day
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RE: The heavy day
(June 9, 2016 at 5:35 am)Brian37 Wrote:
(June 8, 2016 at 9:23 pm)Sheed1980 Wrote: Well first u shouldn't look at Him as a sky wizard. He is God Almighty Allah, The Creator of all things. When He determines a matter He only says to it "Be" and it is. But u as everyone else has their God-given right to believe in Him and worship Him alone or not. But just as He says in the Qur'an in Ch 18 Al-Kahf The Cave, "For he who wants to believe let him believe, and he who wants to disbelieve let him disbelieve". What u have to understand is God doesn't tell us to worship Him alone and do good deeds because it increases His power or helps him be better as God. God doesn't need any of us. He is free of all needs worthy of all praise. When He tells us to do these things they are for our benefit only. If we obey Him and do what is right we shall have an eternal life with anything that we desire to have and an innumerable amount of times better than anything we can imagine in this life. But if we disobey Him, not repentant for our sins, or die in a state of unbelief then we receive a punishment worse than any imagination could produce and for eternity. So the decision is ours. U have to ask urself "what life do I want in the Hereafter?"

Why shouldn't look at him as a sky wizard? You wanting him to be real doesn't make him real and it takes suspension of critical thinking to swallow that naked assertion. Yes I do see all god/s/God/deity/supernatural claims just  like Superman and Batman and Spiderman and Harry Potter and Yoda. 

How about YOU consider humans merely swallow god claims because they mostly get sold a religion at birth and or fall for it because it gives them a false sense of comfort because of the fear of being finite? How about you consider that god claims are merely a refection of human's qualities in their own desires, narcissism, and fear?

I know too much about the age of our species and age of the planet and size of the universe to stupidly think I am the center of the planet or universe. Humans are not the center of the planet or the universe, and neither is any god claim or any religion. Our species will go extinct in the future and all the fantasies as far as any god claim or relgion will go extinct with us, and there will be no record of us, or the myths we have created.

And just like when Christians and Jews use the word "Obey", no sorry, that is the worst part of all three religions. That word reflects the dictator kings under wich blind loyalty of the tribe was expected. It has no modern reflection of western society where the rulers only rule us with our consent. I certainly have to "obey" speed limits or risk a ticket. But no cop has the right to beat the shit out of me when I am not resisting. And if a judge or politician even a president breaks the law we have recourse to remove them. The god of Abraham is an immovable position, not a voted position like in the west. Your god claim reflects the immovable royalty of the tribal times those books were written in. It has absolutely NOTHING in common with western modern political and religious pluralism. It is a dictator concept because humans back then lived under kings, and that is what kings are, DICTATORS.
Well I say u should read the Qur'an the final word of God to all mankind delivered through His final messenger Muhammad pbuh. As an atheist u may be interested to know of the many mathematical, scientific, astronomical and linguistic miracles of the Qur'an, a book revealed in the 7th century when no human had knowledge of these things mentioned, which with our technology we can verify as true to this day. Proving it could only from
the knowledge and power of God.
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The heavy day - by WinterHold - June 7, 2016 at 5:03 am
RE: The heavy day - by Iroscato - June 7, 2016 at 5:08 am
RE: The heavy day - by ignoramus - June 7, 2016 at 7:28 am
RE: The heavy day - by WinterHold - June 7, 2016 at 9:29 am
RE: The heavy day - by Mister Agenda - June 7, 2016 at 2:36 pm
RE: The heavy day - by Brian37 - June 8, 2016 at 6:04 am
RE: The heavy day - by FatAndFaithless - June 7, 2016 at 9:30 am
RE: The heavy day - by GUBU - June 10, 2016 at 8:10 am
RE: The heavy day - by LastPoet - June 7, 2016 at 12:53 pm
RE: The heavy day - by LastPoet - June 7, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: The heavy day - by Minimalist - June 7, 2016 at 12:56 pm
RE: The heavy day - by RozKek - June 7, 2016 at 1:01 pm
RE: The heavy day - by drfuzzy - June 7, 2016 at 4:23 pm
RE: The heavy day - by mlmooney89 - June 8, 2016 at 5:37 pm
RE: The heavy day - by ReptilianPeon - June 9, 2016 at 3:15 am
RE: The heavy day - by WinterHold - June 9, 2016 at 9:30 am
RE: The heavy day - by ReptilianPeon - June 8, 2016 at 2:21 am
RE: The heavy day - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 8, 2016 at 2:36 am
RE: The heavy day - by Sheed1980 - June 8, 2016 at 4:13 am
RE: The heavy day - by Brian37 - June 8, 2016 at 6:06 am
RE: The heavy day - by Sheed1980 - June 8, 2016 at 9:23 pm
RE: The heavy day - by Brian37 - June 9, 2016 at 5:35 am
RE: The heavy day - by Sheed1980 - June 9, 2016 at 11:33 am
RE: The heavy day - by Brian37 - June 9, 2016 at 1:16 pm
RE: The heavy day - by Sheed1980 - June 9, 2016 at 7:13 pm
RE: The heavy day - by ReptilianPeon - June 8, 2016 at 5:52 am
RE: The heavy day - by Cyberman - June 8, 2016 at 8:27 am
RE: The heavy day - by Brian37 - June 8, 2016 at 5:48 pm
RE: The heavy day - by WinterHold - June 10, 2016 at 7:50 am
RE: The heavy day - by brewer - June 8, 2016 at 4:11 pm
RE: The heavy day - by SteelCurtain - June 8, 2016 at 9:32 pm
RE: The heavy day - by Adam Blackstar - June 9, 2016 at 10:15 am
RE: The heavy day - by TubbyTubby - June 9, 2016 at 11:54 am
RE: The heavy day - by Losty - June 9, 2016 at 1:06 pm
RE: The heavy day - by WinterHold - June 9, 2016 at 9:11 pm
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RE: The heavy day - by WinterHold - June 9, 2016 at 11:05 pm
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RE: The heavy day - by WinterHold - June 21, 2016 at 12:48 pm
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RE: The heavy day - by WinterHold - June 22, 2016 at 12:37 pm
RE: The heavy day - by Losty - June 9, 2016 at 7:20 pm
RE: The heavy day - by LadyForCamus - June 9, 2016 at 10:03 pm
RE: The heavy day - by Losty - June 9, 2016 at 10:22 pm
RE: The heavy day - by MysticKnight - June 21, 2016 at 1:37 pm
RE: The heavy day - by Edwardo Piet - June 9, 2016 at 7:23 pm
RE: The heavy day - by Edwardo Piet - June 9, 2016 at 9:41 pm
RE: The heavy day - by Edwardo Piet - June 9, 2016 at 11:07 pm
RE: The heavy day - by WinterHold - June 9, 2016 at 11:09 pm
RE: The heavy day - by Edwardo Piet - June 9, 2016 at 11:10 pm
RE: The heavy day - by Little lunch - June 12, 2016 at 5:10 am
RE: The heavy day - by Cyberman - June 10, 2016 at 8:57 am
RE: The heavy day - by WinterHold - June 11, 2016 at 9:42 am
RE: The heavy day - by Cyberman - June 11, 2016 at 9:58 am
RE: The heavy day - by WinterHold - June 11, 2016 at 10:18 am
RE: The heavy day - by Brian37 - June 11, 2016 at 11:06 am
RE: The heavy day - by vorlon13 - June 21, 2016 at 12:54 pm
RE: The heavy day - by Cyberman - June 22, 2016 at 8:26 am
RE: The heavy day - by MysticKnight - June 21, 2016 at 1:33 pm
RE: The heavy day - by WinterHold - June 22, 2016 at 12:47 pm
RE: The heavy day - by Minimalist - June 22, 2016 at 12:57 pm
RE: The heavy day - by account_inactive - June 22, 2016 at 11:03 pm
RE: The heavy day - by TubbyTubby - June 22, 2016 at 1:11 pm
RE: The heavy day - by Minimalist - June 22, 2016 at 11:14 pm
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