SteveII Wrote:Quote:Why hasn't God arranged for everyone to be able to have knowledge of God? Romans 1:20 comes to mind: "For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse." There are many more verses that speak about how the heavens, etc. declare this or that about God. That seems to be the "God Shaped Hole" in our psyche that psychologist like to talk about.
In addition, I think that God has a different idea than you do about where the line between freely choosing God from a) the amount of information that has been revealed and b) the amount of information needed that would be so obvious that freely choosing God would not play into it. I think philosophers call it morally sufficient freedom.
Another question: If we are in a "fallen state" or a have a "sin nature" affecting us, why wouldn't it be reasonable to conclude (as does the Bible) that our cognitive abilities have been impaired and our built-in selfcenteredness (pride) prevents us from seeing evidence that conflicts with the selfcenteredness (a kind of noetic effect).
You've been here this long and are still resorting to argument from Bible verse? That verse is one of the clearest evidences of the Bible's fallibility to an atheist, because we know it isn't true.
It's telling that the biggest problem with God is explaining why he's hiding.
You mean, if we assume your claim is true, why wouldn't we think your conclusion is true? I hope you don't think that was a good question. In any case, if true, our 'fallen nature' wouldn't be our fault, it would be due to the choices of two humans and God. It's like blaming a blind person for tripping over obstacles when you're the one who blinded her.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
